Butt/Amir/Asif - Spot Fixing Trial

[fredfertang]

Defendant's are adept at trying to mislead everyone - it goes with the territory - as long as a legal representative isn't party to any such attempt then he or she is fine, although depending on exactly what happens they might find themselves "professionally embarassed" and forced to withdraw from the case

 

[Agent Nationaux]

So let's say that Asif and Butt had had a private conversation in one of their hotel rooms the night before, where it was agreed that Asif would bowl the no-ball in question. Neither player discusses the matter on the field of play.

If Asif is asked the question "did Salman Butt ask you on the field of play to bowl a no-ball" and Asif (truthfully) answers "no, there was no discussion about bowling tactics on the field between me and Salman", would that come under misleading the Court?

But isn't the point that the defence lawyer knows that Asif is guilty. What if he doesn't and asks him the question? But I think his defence can do that even if they know he is guilty because it doesn't conflict with what Zaremba said.

 

[r3alist]

Majeed named 7 fixers in Pakistan team, court hears. Butt, Asif, Amir. Plus Umar Akmal, Kamran Akmal, Wahab Riaz, Imran Farhat

It's been clear to me that this is bigger than the three names.

I also feel it could go right to the top, because if farhat and akmal are involved, but they are also obviously atrocious performing players then why would a selector choose them? surely they should gave been dropped long ago?

These are uncomfortable questions pak fans need to ask to rid the team of this menace.

 

[Burgey]

So let's say that Asif and Butt had had a private conversation in one of their hotel rooms the night before, where it was agreed that Asif would bowl the no-ball in question. Neither player discusses the matter on the field of play.

If Asif is asked the question "did Salman Butt ask you on the field of play to bowl a no-ball" and Asif (truthfully) answers "no, there was no discussion about bowling tactics on the field between me and Salman", would that come under misleading the Court?

Not if Asif doesn't tell his lawyer.

 

[Furball]

Not if Asif doesn't tell his lawyer.

I'm assuming his lawyer knows and is trying to get a not guilty.

 

[Burgey]

I'm assuming his lawyer knows and is trying to get a not guilty.

Well I suppose it wouldn't be. But you'd have to be a pretty ordinary lawyer not to cross examine him and ask if they discussed it any other time prior to going on the field

 

[Spikey]

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Majeed says he could have signed afridi 5 yrs ago but he is "too arrogant and you need to kiss his arse every day"

so arrogance is match fixing's kryptonite...?

 

[Howe_zat]

Makes sense. I don't think you'd have to be all that proud of yourself to think you're above Majeed, and Afridi's got nothing if not a sense of self-importance. Whether it's deserved or not is another debate, but that's besides the point.

 

[smash84]

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so arrogance is match fixing's kryptonite...?

....good question

 

[four_or_six]

On Afridi... I went to 'Titans of Cricket' on Saturday night at the O2 (don't go by the way, it was complete and utter ****e), and the umpire twice said that the Pakistan team were going to get special treatment because they had given him a suitcase full of cash (completely out of order comment of course, cue booing from the crowd). Afridi looked like he was going to smack him round the head with his bat, I'm surprised he didn't just walk out.

 

[Burgey]

On Afridi... I went to 'Titans of Cricket' on Saturday night at the O2 (don't go by the way, it was complete and utter ****e), and the umpire twice said that the Pakistan team were going to get special treatment because they had given him a suitcase full of cash (completely out of order comment of course, cue booing from the crowd). Afridi looked like he was going to smack him round the head with his bat, I'm surprised he didn't just walk out.

I think it's only the official Pakistan team which operates that way, not the Titans of Cricket one.

 

[Xuhaib]

#spotfixing trial: It's a long afternoon session and Mohammad Asif has fallen asleep in the dock on his interpreter's shoulder ..

have said this before will say it again this guy has tons of natural charisma to be top class hollywood bad guy, get him a coach to work on his English and acting skills and a second career is all set.

 

[Xuhaib]

 

[slowfinger]

I honestly think that spot fixing is spot fixing, and if you know its illegal (you have to be stupid to think it isn't) you just gotta own up and do the time. Dont do the crime if you dont wanna do the time.

 

[Fusion]

Agent tells court that Pakistani and Australian players involved in betting scams

LONDON: A sports agent accused of taking bribes to fix matches said Australian cricketers were “the biggest” culprits and that some of Pakistan’s best-known former players were involved in betting scams, a London court heard on Monday.

Agent Mazhar Majeed, 36, told an undercover journalist match-fixing had been going on “for centuries” and named celebrated former Pakistan fast-bowlers Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis as alleged participants, the court heard.

Prosecutors allege that Majeed conspired with Pakistan’s former Test captain Salman Butt, 27, and fast bowlers Mohammad Asif, 28, and Mohammad Amir, 19, to fix parts of the Lord’s Test between England and Pakistan last August.

Butt and Asif, who are standing trial, deny conspiracy to cheat and conspiracy to accept corrupt payments.

The jury at Southwark Crown Court was played covert recordings of meetings between the agent and former News of the World journalist Mazher Mahmood, who was posing as a rich Indian businessman organising a proposed cricket tournament in the United Arab Emirates.

Majeed met Mahmood at a west London restaurant on Aug. 18 last year — the first day of Pakistan’s Oval Test against England — and, after the meal, discussed match-fixing in the undercover reporter’s car, the court was told.

“It’s been happening for centuries. It’s been happening for years. Wasim, Waqar, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan — they all did it,” Majeed said.

“ABSOLUTE MILLIONS”

Majeed alleged that Australian players would fix “brackets”, a set period of a match on which punters bet, such as on how many runs would be scored, the Press Association reported.

“The Australians, they are the biggest. They have 10 brackets a game,” he said in the tape played to the court.

Majeed told the reporter he had been “doing this with the Pakistani team now for about two-and-a-half years, and we’ve made masses and masses of money. You can make absolute millions.”

The agent said his players did not often fix the outcomes of matches.

However he told Mahmood it would cost between 50,000 pounds ($78,000) and 80,000 pounds for information about a bracket, 400,000 pounds to fix the result of a Twenty20 game, 450,000 pounds for a one-day international and one million pounds to rig the outcome of a Test match.

Majeed said it was the Pakistan cricketers who asked him to get involved in match-fixing, the court heard. He also boasted that he knew Hollywood film star Brad Pitt and former world number one tennis player Roger Federer “very well” and could arrange for them to promote the UAE tournament.

He told the journalist he managed 10 Pakistan cricketers, as well as “a couple of Indian players”, Australian fast bowler Nathan Bracken and West Indian all-rounder Chris Gayle.

The undercover reporter indirectly referred to match-fixing at the end of the meeting, saying two or three players were needed “on the betting side”.

The agent replied: “There’s more than two or three, believe me, it’s already set, it’s already there.”

The trial continues.

 

[Fusion]

I specially loved it when the douche boasts about knowing Brad Pitt and Federer.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

I guess, his testimony is worth ****. Knowing Pitt and Federer, Nathan Bracken and Gayle fixing, fixing going on for centuries, Australians being the biggest fixers, 10 Pakistanis when he said 7 earlier. Lol, what an idiot.

 

[r3alist]

I would like to hear him provide specifics instances where this occurred.

 

[Burgey]

Agent tells court that Pakistani and Australian players involved in betting scams

LONDON: A sports agent accused of taking bribes to fix matches said Australian cricketers were “the biggest” culprits and that some of Pakistan’s best-known former players were involved in betting scams, a London court heard on Monday.

Agent Mazhar Majeed, 36, told an undercover journalist match-fixing had been going on “for centuries” and named celebrated former Pakistan fast-bowlers Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis as alleged participants, the court heard.

Prosecutors allege that Majeed conspired with Pakistan’s former Test captain Salman Butt, 27, and fast bowlers Mohammad Asif, 28, and Mohammad Amir, 19, to fix parts of the Lord’s Test between England and Pakistan last August.

Butt and Asif, who are standing trial, deny conspiracy to cheat and conspiracy to accept corrupt payments.

The jury at Southwark Crown Court was played covert recordings of meetings between the agent and former News of the World journalist Mazher Mahmood, who was posing as a rich Indian businessman organising a proposed cricket tournament in the United Arab Emirates.

Majeed met Mahmood at a west London restaurant on Aug. 18 last year — the first day of Pakistan’s Oval Test against England — and, after the meal, discussed match-fixing in the undercover reporter’s car, the court was told.

“It’s been happening for centuries. It’s been happening for years. Wasim, Waqar, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan — they all did it,” Majeed said.

“ABSOLUTE MILLIONS”

Majeed alleged that Australian players would fix “brackets”, a set period of a match on which punters bet, such as on how many runs would be scored, the Press Association reported.

“The Australians, they are the biggest. They have 10 brackets a game,” he said in the tape played to the court.

Majeed told the reporter he had been “doing this with the Pakistani team now for about two-and-a-half years, and we’ve made masses and masses of money. You can make absolute millions.”

The agent said his players did not often fix the outcomes of matches.

However he told Mahmood it would cost between 50,000 pounds ($78,000) and 80,000 pounds for information about a bracket, 400,000 pounds to fix the result of a Twenty20 game, 450,000 pounds for a one-day international and one million pounds to rig the outcome of a Test match.

Majeed said it was the Pakistan cricketers who asked him to get involved in match-fixing, the court heard. He also boasted that he knew Hollywood film star Brad Pitt and former world number one tennis player Roger Federer “very well” and could arrange for them to promote the UAE tournament.

He told the journalist he managed 10 Pakistan cricketers, as well as “a couple of Indian players”, Australian fast bowler Nathan Bracken and West Indian all-rounder Chris Gayle.

The undercover reporter indirectly referred to match-fixing at the end of the meeting, saying two or three players were needed “on the betting side”.

The agent replied: “There’s more than two or three, believe me, it’s already set, it’s already there.”

The trial continues.

Finally a logical explanation for why we aren't winning everything these days.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Finally a logical explanation for why we aren't winning everything these days.

Funny isn't it that both Pakistan and Australia fixed against England.