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*Official* Third Test at Edgbaston

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Sky just showed a graphic of Sharma.

Only one ball could be legitimately called "attacking the stumps" - ie. anywhere near.

One.
That's why i didn't mention Sharma.:p
In any case with the length he bowls he does not attack the stumps much in any case.

The plan seems to be to keep it just outside offstump and they have done it well and thus kept the run rate down. You could sense both Cook and Strauss were getting impatient a while back with the plan being to get them to drive.

Atleast it is better than serving up boundaries which i expected this morning.
 
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MW1304

Cricketer Of The Year
Praveen hasn't been too different. Noticed he didn't bowl any inswingers, though, making most of his deliveries leavable - but he didn't give anything away. I think the England openers played him better, really. Sree and Ishant, supposedly the more attacking bowlers, have been much too defensive so far.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Yeah,agreed to an extent.

But these are all experienced batsman + Raina (who is average in anycase) who have been there and done it all so better is expected from them.

The bowling was nothing extraordinary yesterday in terms of building pressure or Wicket taking balls tbh, and Dhoni showed how pressure could be pushed back on them too.
Experienced players still get down when they're losing mate. Yes, they're more experienced so they know they can dig themselves out of holes but while I may well expose my complete lack of Indian holes knowledge, this is probably the biggest mental hole they've dug for themselves in quite a while.

Yesterdays bowling didn't need to be as good as South Africa's. When you're 2-0 down in a series and getting thrashed at that, two things are possible; players dig deep and find that something extra, or they turn up at the ground for the next match already beaten. This is all on an individual player to player basis.

Take Sehwag for an example. He's just come off an injury and has played no international cricket for goodness knows how long. He's going to practise surrounded by a team on the downer, trying to hone his eye and technique in the nets etc all the while surrounded by guys not quite there mentally. Maybe the net bowler only bowls at 90%, or maybe Raina is in the net next to him doing **** things Raina does. You pick up on these things and it's quite easy for it to creep into your mind and affect you. A moment is all that's needed in international sport to determine success or failure.

Then on gameday, you're facing the buggers who've smacked your side senseless, and you know they're going to be fired up. Your preparation has consisted of trying to get your game going while surrounded by a miserable side staring at a whitewash, and this is your first game in yonks.

Tendulkar is another example. He's in crap form. It happens. He's also on reputation the main man in the batting. Like Sehwag, he's trying to get his game back in a mentally defeated side. Hell, maybe he himself is thinking "**** this ****, whatever we do these English buggers seem to have an answer."

England's bowling might not have been up to their usual standard, but they got away with it because in the Indian mindset maybe the English were going to bowl like the West Indies of yesteryear.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
135/0. This is carnage.......at least watching Pakistan last year there was some consolation that while we might get skittled for 70 odd there was a good chance that England could be skittled for less than 250
 

Spark

Global Moderator
That's why i didn't mention Sharma.:p
In any case with the length he bowls he does not attack the stumps much in any case.

The plan seems to be to keep it just outside offstump and they have done it well and thus kept the run rate down. You could sense both Cook and Strauss were getting impatient a while back with the plan being to get them to drive.

Atleast it is better than serving up boundaries which i expected this morning.
The thing is though, that lasted one over. These two are just so naturally patient that you really do have to be actively searching for a wicket because the chances of them donating you one is just so, so low.

Especially given that up 'til now India have been very successful against them.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
Feeding Cook now!
The selectors have the intelligence of a grape for selecting him. I wish I could stop supporting India because the selection panel means the gap between our potential and actual performances are too massive for my brain to comprehend.
 

hazsa19

International Regular
Sky just showed a graphic of Sharma.

Only one ball could be legitimately called "attacking the stumps" - ie. anywhere near.

One.
Really think people are being harsh. They've put some pressure on and taken a few edges. Yesterday England did the same and took wickets.

So far India haven't, but they'll only be 'unlucky' if they keep bowling well and remain unrewarded.

In the other games they've done this for an hour or so, before losing the plot.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
Hey look, here is Mishra, who bowled **** in the West Indies but has been selected anyway.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
Experienced players still get down when they're losing mate. Yes, they're more experienced so they know they can dig themselves out of holes but while I may well expose my complete lack of Indian holes knowledge, this is probably the biggest mental hole they've dug for themselves in quite a while.

Yesterdays bowling didn't need to be as good as South Africa's. When you're 2-0 down in a series and getting thrashed at that, two things are possible; players dig deep and find that something extra, or they turn up at the ground for the next match already beaten. This is all on an individual player to player basis.

Take Sehwag for an example. He's just come off an injury and has played no international cricket for goodness knows how long. He's going to practise surrounded by a team on the downer, trying to hone his eye and technique in the nets etc all the while surrounded by guys not quite there mentally. Maybe the net bowler only bowls at 90%, or maybe Raina is in the net next to him doing **** things Raina does. You pick up on these things and it's quite easy for it to creep into your mind and affect you. A moment is all that's needed in international sport to determine success or failure.

Then on gameday, you're facing the buggers who've smacked your side senseless, and you know they're going to be fired up. Your preparation has consisted of trying to get your game going while surrounded by a miserable side staring at a whitewash, and this is your first game in yonks.

Tendulkar is another example. He's in crap form. It happens. He's also on reputation the main man in the batting. Like Sehwag, he's trying to get his game back in a mentally defeated side. Hell, maybe he himself is thinking "**** this ****, whatever we do these English buggers seem to have an answer."

England's bowling might not have been up to their usual standard, but they got away with it because in the Indian mindset maybe the English were going to bowl like the West Indies of yesteryear.
wow....quality post
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Not been great cricket from either side this morning, tbh.
Not really, no, but England don't need to play "great" cricket - they just don't need to get out. And for the most part they haven't looked like getting out.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Hey look, here is Mishra, who bowled **** in the West Indies but has been selected anyway.
I thought he was decent in the tests in the West Indies and very good in ODI's.

Much better than Harbhajan in any case.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
The selectors have the intelligence of a grape for selecting him. I wish I could stop supporting India because the selection panel means the gap between our potential and actual performances are too massive for my brain to comprehend.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

dude you should replace Sidhu in the commentary box
 

smash84

The Tiger King
haha......yeah....I can't blame Manee...........I've been there done that with our team but I wasn't half as eloquent :p
 

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