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*Official* Third Test at Edgbaston

Stapel

International Regular
heh, easy from the couch, tbh.
There is no way Sachin would have played at that ball the way he did in South Africa tbh, even in the most hostile spells of bowling by Steyn.
Gambhir was trying to play straighter until that shot,Laxman's shot could have been avoided easily and well Raina was being dire.
Just proving my point (Laxman aside).

Anyway.
Reckon you need to repost what you said earlier about people who just look at the wicket-taking deliveries.
As said Top Cat, I do agree somewhat. But imho you are giving the batsmen too much slack. Sehwag's and Tendulkar's wickets were not the result of consistent proper bowling plans. Not sure Laxman's hook shot was really the result of too much pressure. I guess your point is the most obvious for Gambhir's dismissal


Anyway, if your point earlier (as I conclude from Uppercut's post) is that taking a wicket in Tests is very much about a (long) series of good deliveries, rather than just the wicket taking delivery, I wholeheartedly agree with you!
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
As said Top Cat, I do agree somewhat. But imho you are giving the batsmen too much slack. Sehwag's and Tendulkar's wickets were not the result of consistent proper bowling plans. Not sure Laxman's hook shot was really the result of too much pressure. I guess your point is the most obvious for Gambhir's dismissal


Anyway, if your point earlier (as I conclude from Uppercut's post) is that taking a wicket in Tests is very much about a (long) series of good deliveries, rather than just the wicket taking delivery, I wholeheartedly agree with you!
Agree with the last part too.

But even Gambhir's dismissal was as a result of slowing down of run rate for about 5 overs and he shouldn't really have lost patience after 5 overs. Could understand if it was 12 to 20 overs but 5 overs is too less.

And even if he had to drive he should have driven with a straighter bat as he was attempting to do yesterday for the most part so there was a error on both counts.
 

hazsa19

International Regular
As said Top Cat, I do agree somewhat. But imho you are giving the batsmen too much slack. Sehwag's and Tendulkar's wickets were not the result of consistent proper bowling plans.
Think you're being harsh on Tendulker. Anderson is all over him, and that ball he nipped back through the gate was a beauty, and confirmed to him that he couldn't leave much.

Broad then bowled a ball that moved a touch on a good line and length, which had Sachin in two minds.

So he nicked off early in his innings, that's cricket. He's a human being and England's bowlers have got to him a touch.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
I am the only one who thinks India have bowled relatively well this morning?

Beaten the edge on a few occasions, not given too many loose deliveries and the edges have either not carried or gone in gaps.

Even got Cook and Strauss to chase wide ones on a few occasions and play poor shots.
 

keeper

U19 Vice-Captain
Really interesting to read about reducing give when standing up: I hope that means using your wrists to cushion the ball so that you don't take your hands back from the line of the stumps, making stumpings faster - this is a point I've been focusing on increasingly of late.
The purpose was to increase speed but he wasn't clear on the technique. Spoke more about absorbing the ball through the body (no mention of wrists) which didn't make too much sense.


Was there anything mentioned on stance/balance and weight transfer when standing up to the stumps? Another big focus for me of late has been getting feet further back and therefore hands and head further forward, meaning the take is completed with the weight forward so you have the momentum to create the stumping. I've seen a lot of keepers whose hands have started in line with their knees, which automatically sends them back when they take the ball.
Can't remember what he said but this is clearly what he did when he demo-ed it. The movement has to be from arms, shoulders and hands rather than body or the speed is lost. He took throwdowns with a line of the orange skidpans in front of his stump, and uses body armour and helmet so the focus can be on technique without fear of injury.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I am the only one who thinks India have bowled relatively well this morning?

Beaten the edge on a few occasions, not given too many loose deliveries and the edges have either not carried or gone in gaps.

Even got Cook and Strauss to chase wide ones on a few occasions and play poor shots.
I've found the bulk of it to be negative and spineless, in all honesty
 

Uppercut

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I am the only one who thinks India have bowled relatively well this morning?

Beaten the edge on a few occasions, not given too many loose deliveries and the edges have either not carried or gone in gaps.

Even got Cook and Strauss to chase wide ones on a few occasions and play poor shots.
Yeah, they're bowling pretty well. Need to get lucky to take many wickets against this batting lineup in these conditions though.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
I am the only one who thinks India have bowled relatively well this morning?

Beaten the edge on a few occasions, not given too many loose deliveries and the edges have either not carried or gone in gaps.

Even got Cook and Strauss to chase wide ones on a few occasions and play poor shots.
You might be. Found it kind of poor - because it's what I watched us do all summer down here.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
I've found the bulk of it to be negative and spineless, in all honesty
Negative?Not like they have bowled wide or anything with one sided fields.

Praveen has bowled the channel all morning. Just that they haven't tried too many things this morning and have only bowled one type of swing mostly with Sree bringing it in to the lefties and Praveen consistently taking it away.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Negative?Not like they have bowled wide or anything.

Praveen has bowled the channel all morning. Just that they haven't tried too many things this morning and have only bowled one type of swing mostly with Sree bringing it in to the lefties and Praveen consistently taking it away.
Sky just showed a graphic of Sharma.

Only one ball could be legitimately called "attacking the stumps" - ie. anywhere near.

One.
 

keeper

U19 Vice-Captain
Think the Indian bowling has a lot more discipline this morning and they look more like a team. They're just not doing it quick enough to cause problems consistently or to make the most of the good balls.
 

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