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*Official* Second Test at Trent Bridge

CricAddict

Cricketer Of The Year
So Cook fails in yet another innings in the series. He is one of the 2-3 guys in the world currently with a small chance to overtake Sachin's runs tally. And Indian bowlers determined to prevent him getting that :)
 

KiWiNiNjA

International Coach
should have said "survived one where he was out and was given out where he wasn't"
Nah, the first one was marginal and could have gone either way but given he was so far out of his crease it's understandable that it was given not out. You can't really say "he survived one that was out", if it had been reviewed it would have still been not out.
 

Van Buren

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Cook has seemed a bit unconvincing so far this series when facing good-length deliveries.

A pity he wasn't able to cash in on his extra life and make India rethink its stance on DRS, so that this whole selective DRS nonsense can be laid to rest.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
I consider both those equal. Can call them whatever you want.

Even if we rely fully on the Hawkeye, one was hitting middle of leg and one was going over.
I didn't think it was possible for someone to not understand such a simple set of rules.

The first one was given not out by the Umpire. If it had been referred to hawkeye it would have stayed not out as there wasn't enough of the ball hitting the stumps to conclusively overrule him. The second one was clearly missing and would have been not out.
 

shankar

International Debutant
I haven't seen it more than once, but why would the Praveen one have been not out with DRS? Wasn't it just pitching in line and hitting the stumps with more than half the ball?
 

miscer

U19 Cricketer
I didn't think it was possible for someone to not understand such a simple set of rules.

The first one was given not out by the Umpire. If it had been referred to hawkeye it would have stayed not out as there wasn't enough of the ball hitting the stumps to conclusively overrule him. The second one was clearly missing and would have been not out.
can someone clarify here as I understand it, it was because he was 2.5m+ down the pitch and that's why it's original call. so which one? the ball not hitting fully or being 2.5m+ down the pitch?
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
i don't understand why people make a big fuss about umpires not giving batsmen out when the ball's hitting leg stump, for example...
benefit of the doubt goes to the batsman remember..ALWAYS!!
If theres doubt you have to rule the decision in the batsman's favour.
for more than 100 years thats how the lbws have worked.

if you keep making brave calls, sooner or later you are bound to get some wrong... thats why it's better to play it safe (batsmen have only 1 chance)- should rule doubtful decisions in batsman's favour
cook should not have been given out but **** happens. thats how it is.

different umpires make different decisions..
 

LJMJ

U19 12th Man
If it had been referred to hawkeye it would have stayed not out as there wasn't enough of the ball hitting the stumps to conclusively overrule him.
The heck are you talking about? The ball was cleanly hitting the stumps on the first appeal. It would've absolutely been given out if referred.
 

KiWiNiNjA

International Coach
I haven't seen it more than once, but why would the Praveen one have been not out with DRS? Wasn't it just pitching in line and hitting the stumps with more than half the ball?
He was 2.6m down the pitch so there is more margin for error.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
I didn't think it was possible for someone to not understand such a simple set of rules.

The first one was given not out by the Umpire. If it had been referred to hawkeye it would have stayed not out as there wasn't enough of the ball hitting the stumps to conclusively overrule him. The second one was clearly missing and would have been not out.
Then first one was going to be given not out because of it being 2.5 metre out just to clarify, even if it was hitting the middle of leg. This is a weakness of the system if it was implemented and weakness of the Hawkeye which isn't completely accurate for such both Marginal calls in any case.
 
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91Jmay

International Coach
can someone clarify here as I understand it, it was because he was 2.5m+ down the pitch and that's why it's original call. so which one? the ball not hitting fully or being 2.5m+ down the pitch?
Sorry i badly worded it. Because he was 2.5m+ down you couldn't conclusively say enough of the ball was hitting.
 

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