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*Official* First Test at Lord's

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Just to illustrate my earlier point,the hotspot did only show a spot on the pad for the Morgan dismissal.was it not out too?
Funny how when some of us pointed out the flaws in HotSpot pre-series we were rubbished because it was apparently flawless.

You should be banned from posting about UDRS.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Funny how when some of us pointed out the flaws in HotSpot pre-series we were rubbished because it was apparently flawless.

You should be banned from posting about UDRS.
eh? I said out decisions should not be overturned to not out based on hotspot. Jog on......
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
News from the dressing room is that Morgan thought he hit it. Don't think we can feel too hard done to, 50/50 decision imo.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
eh? I said out decisions should not be overturned to not out based on hotspot. Jog on......
It wasn't just based on HotSpot though, because the HotSpot angles weren't very good, as Atherton noted on Sky. To me at least (and thus presumably to the 3rd umpire) it was based mostly on the fact that there was only one noise and Pietersen smashing his pad with his bat.

That there was nothing on HotSpot doesn't hurt (if there was something, it would have been out because it tends not to just make stuff up) but it's not exactly a clincher because it's so rubbish at picking stuff up and misses so many obvious edges.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Good to see that Wasim Akram is loving Praveen Kumar's bowling.

The 100 county bowlers who bowl like Praveen as per Goughy should be proud!
Have to say that if Goughy made a comment like that he is seriously misinformed. There aren't 5 bowlers in the international game that have the same mastery of seam and swing as Praveen does. Considering he is only 24 that is remarkable. As I said earlier, he might run into problems when the ball isn't moving around as much but his selection for the tour of England and for this game is a masterstroke in foresight and hindsight. I cant imagine Sreesanth bowling 40+ overs in this inning as Praveen will inevitably bowl.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
At least it doesn't depend on the operators as far as I understand. (re: snicko, hotspot vs hawkeye)
 
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weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Have to say that if Goughy made a comment like that he is seriously misinformed. There aren't 5 bowlers in the international game that have the same mastery of seam and swing as Praveen does. Considering he is only 24 that is remarkable. As I said earlier, he might run into problems when the ball isn't moving around as much but his selection for the tour of England and for this game is a masterstroke in foresight and hindsight. I cant imagine Sreesanth bowling 40+ overs in this inning as Praveen will inevitably bowl.
Bang on.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Have to say that if Goughy made a comment like that he is seriously misinformed. There aren't 5 bowlers in the international game that have the same mastery of seam and swing as Praveen does. Considering he is only 24 that is remarkable. As I said earlier, he might run into problems when the ball isn't moving around as much but his selection for the tour of England and for this game is a masterstroke in foresight and hindsight. I cant imagine Sreesanth bowling 40+ overs in this inning as Praveen will inevitably bowl.
Makes it an even more remarkable move that Fletcher of all people would approve this selection choice. Seems like the exact opposite of what you'd expect from him.
 

vcs

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Been a very good knock by Pietersen in that he's displayed a facet of his game that has often been questioned in recent times, i.e. the ability to knuckle down and grind runs out. Not the most challenging bowling he will ever face, but still well done.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
England are ahead at tea. One more wicket before tea would have kept the game in balance.

Pietersen is showing maturity. The world is yet to see the best of his batting, I believe! When he retires, he'll stand head-and-shoulders above any other England batsman of the last 30 years.

Full marks to Praveen though. He's bowling his heart out in the long spells in the absence of ZaK. Lad has got the character for test cricket.
 
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Furball

Evil Scotsman
Just to illustrate my earlier point,the hotspot did only show a spot on the pad for the Morgan dismissal.was it not out too?
Funny how when some of us pointed out the flaws in HotSpot pre-series we were rubbished because it was apparently flawless.

You should be banned from posting about UDRS.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
Praveen's figures suffering from playing in a 3-man attack with the others bowling like incompetent ****s. Watching Ishant bowl in particular has been painful. Still, what a hero. Keeping your team's bowling together in your 4th ever game in an immensely pressurized game. Pretty sure hundreds of county pacers can do that too.

Freddie Flintoff can get ****ed also.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Going to be a long old session for India coming up, 45 overs left in the day. We won't get them all in but against some tired bowlers England can really up the run rate. Maybe put the openers in for 30 minutes tonight and see if we can make early inroads and if we don't the ball will still be really new in the morning.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Funny how when some of us pointed out the flaws in HotSpot pre-series we were rubbished because it was apparently flawless.

You should be banned from posting about UDRS.
Already responded to it nonsense.Saying it again and again does not make it true.8-)
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
I have to say I didn't see any clear daylight between the ball and the bat even in the KP case on the slow-mo replays, like I was reading here.
EXACTLY.Could have taken the back of the bat and you would know that if you have played enough cricket with the red ball swinging ,imo.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Well played Kevin, this and his knock against SL may have been against average attacks but they have shown a lot of character and effort that he has put into his game in order to get his career back on track.

Still a little annoying to hear Harsha and co harp on about Pietersen being a pariah in England. Its a bit annoying when some of these commentators watch little cricket other than the games in which India participate in and then make judgments about a player that are seriously misinformed. Pietersen gets criticism from English fans because his performance over the past 2.5 years in test match cricket have been below average and the fact that he's a bit too arrogant to admit it. He'd be more liked if he self-assessed his performances more modestly. It has nothing to do with where is from.
 

Woodster

International Captain
Have to say that if Goughy made a comment like that he is seriously misinformed. There aren't 5 bowlers in the international game that have the same mastery of seam and swing as Praveen does. Considering he is only 24 that is remarkable. As I said earlier, he might run into problems when the ball isn't moving around as much but his selection for the tour of England and for this game is a masterstroke in foresight and hindsight. I cant imagine Sreesanth bowling 40+ overs in this inning as Praveen will inevitably bowl.
Have to agree, it is absolutely remarkable he's only 24 years old, he looks well over 30!!
 

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