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India squad for England to be picked on July 2

Austerlitz

U19 Debutant
First test defeat more or less assured now, unless there is brilliance from tendulkar and laxman.Should have taken rohit sharma instead of yuvraj.
Sehwag the callous pig.:@
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
First test defeat more or less assured now, unless there is brilliance from tendulkar and laxman.Should have taken rohit sharma instead of yuvraj.
Sehwag the callous pig.:@
Haha, all through this discussion, I'd forgotten Rohit exists. I'd definitely have taken him ahead of Yuvraj.
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
First test defeat more or less assured now, unless there is brilliance from tendulkar and laxman.Should have taken rohit sharma instead of yuvraj.
Sehwag the callous pig.:@
shouldn't have picked him for the whole tour,
go play in the ipl!!

btw if india don't lose at lords, i'll be quite surprised.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Anyone who has watched a decent amount of Indian FC cricket over the last 3-4 years just cannot select Yuvraj ahead of Badrinath for the England tests. It's as simple as that.

I'm afraid our selectors don't actually watch most FC matches and are just occasional FC match on tv/Every ODI match watchers like most of us. That'd be immensely tragic.

I'm disappointed but not surprised. This is a new low.
Yuvraj has penty of international experience, has a fantastic Duleep recordand averages 40 in Test cricket under Dhoni.

It's not a selection I would have made, but as you're pretty much taking a punt on whoever you're picking at 6 then it's not the direst decision there's ever been.
 

Bun

Banned
Plus has done some cricket in Ol' Blighty, (including a disastrous county season I think in 2003). Also has done well against England.

As a reserve, I think that's fine, he is a contingent only.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Contingent to Raina ,who is no guarantee by any means of doing well.
None of your potential number 6s carry that guarantee, so it makes sense to pick the guy who's actually managed a bit of success at Test level.

FWIW I agree with you that Pujara would probably be the best bet, but it would be incredibly rough on Raina.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Pujara is injured in anycase from what has come out ,so was not available.

But how will a player have test success when you keep picking up players again and again who have had a average at best record over them ,By saying that some record is better than no record ?

It's not the worst of selections considering bowling too but agree completely with what Teja said about Badrinath over him.
 
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Prince EWS

Global Moderator
None of your potential number 6s carry that guarantee, so it makes sense to pick the guy who's actually managed a bit of success at Test level.
While I see your point to an extent, if you follow that logic through all the way to the end, Marcus North would've played on forevermore until he retired because none of the alternatives had ever played a game and thus had achieved less than him by default. At some stage there does have to be an element of "you've had lots of chances and your performances aren't up to what we think we have in reserve, so we're going to give someone else an extended run".

There's no doubt Raina has achieved more at Test level than the other alternatives so far, but the question is whether or not he's achieved enough in the opportunities he's been given to persevere with him over those who have had far less chances.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
While I see your point to an extent, if you follow that logic through all the way to the end, Marcus North would've played on forevermore until he retired because none of the alternatives had ever played a game and thus had achieved less than him by default. At some stage there does have to be an element of "you've had lots of chances and your performances aren't up to what we think we have in reserve, so we're going to give someone else an extended run".

There's no doubt Raina has achieved more at Test level than the other alternatives so far, but the question is whether or not he's achieved enough in the opportunities he's been given to persevere with him over those who have had far less chances.
Right here, right now, there's no-one more deserving of the number 6 slot than Raina.

If he has a shocker of a series in England, you re-evaluate.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
I'm very happy with the team.

Though they could have have done with 16 men, dropping Munaf. But the more, the merrier...
 

Spark

Global Moderator
While I see your point to an extent, if you follow that logic through all the way to the end, Marcus North would've played on forevermore until he retired because none of the alternatives had ever played a game and thus had achieved less than him by default. At some stage there does have to be an element of "you've had lots of chances and your performances aren't up to what we think we have in reserve, so we're going to give someone else an extended run".

There's no doubt Raina has achieved more at Test level than the other alternatives so far, but the question is whether or not he's achieved enough in the opportunities he's been given to persevere with him over those who have had far less chances.
And thus begins the problem :p
 

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