2015 World Cup: 10 teams and no associates

[Magrat Garlick]

The latest is that 2019 will have 10 teams with a qualification process.

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Damn ECB.

 

[juro]

Great to have the associates back (and maybe affiliates too)! Now I can finally start looking forward to the 2015 world cup. I wonder what grounds they will stick these games at. Living in Sydney, I'd like to be able to see some of the more colourful teams play...

 

[biased indian]

The latest is that 2019 will have 10 teams with a qualification process.

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but any vote involved in 2015-2016 they will again allow the associates back

 

[_Ed_]

I wonder what grounds they will stick these games at. Living in Sydney, I'd like to be able to see some of the more colourful teams play...

Yeah, me too. Really looking forward to it now.

 

[jashan83]

But the sad part is that they have reduced the T20 WC to 12 nations from 16 nations. It is like Ego. ICC had been forced to go back on decision on 10 nations and now they had to take the revenge somewhere. How the hell does a 12 or 16 nation T20 WC affect them. Afterall it is such a short tournament and should have been the driver to include more countries and spread the game

 

[gvenkat]

Another classic case of shooting yourself in the foot from ICC

14 is a tad too much. 12 would have made better sense. We are still going to see some lopsided games involving Kenya and Canada. How does that really help them improve? if they are going to be shot out for 70's and get massacred in less than 20 overs.

Added to that ICC missed the trick. They should have had qualifiers and not this. BD,WI and ZIM don't have the right to go play without playing qualifiers. Now we are going to see a bloated pool phase without a direction.

Sigh!!!

 

[Cevno]

This.

ICC making FIFA look like a model of sobriety imo.

FIFA?

Nothing the ICC does can make them look a model of sobriety tbh.

 

[Cevno]

Another classic case of shooting yourself in the foot from ICC

14 is a tad too much. 12 would have made better sense. We are still going to see some lopsided games involving Kenya and Canada. How does that really help them improve? if they are going to be shot out for 70's and get massacred in less than 20 overs.

Added to that ICC missed the trick. They should have had qualifiers and not this. BD,WI and ZIM don't have the right to go play without playing qualifiers. Now we are going to see a bloated pool phase without a direction.

Sigh!!!

Afghanistan somehow failed to manage to qualify this time(qualifiying even was held on pitches not suited to them IIRC) ,but they are probably better than Canada and maybe Kenya too.

 

[Howe_zat]

The issue there was that the event was held in early 2009, two years before the world cup proper. Afghanistan hadn't achieved half the things they managed by 2011.

 

[Params7]

But the sad part is that they have reduced the T20 WC to 12 nations from 16 nations. It is like Ego. ICC had been forced to go back on decision on 10 nations and now they had to take the revenge somewhere. How the hell does a 12 or 16 nation T20 WC affect them. Afterall it is such a short tournament and should have been the driver to include more countries and spread the game

Agree. These decisions make no sense. Just keep WC's at 10-12 team with qualification process so likes or Ireland and Afghanistan get a fair chance if BD or Zimb are lesser skilled.

Keep World T20 at 16 teams as there's more chance for an upset.

 

[IrishOpener]

Agree. These decisions make no sense. Just keep WC's at 10-12 team with qualification process so likes or Ireland and Afghanistan get a fair chance if BD or Zimb are lesser skilled.

Keep World T20 at 16 teams as there's more chance for an upset.

Well I think you're pretty much spot on there but I'm not too upset about 14 teams for 2015, at least Ireland, Holland, Afghanistan and Kenya have a very good chance to get involved...

 

[Furball]

The problem with 14 teams isn't that there's too many Associates, the problem is that the best associates in 2009 aren't necessarily the best in 2011.

 

[Daemon]

So whats the deal now, are there qualifiers?

 

[Furball]

Another classic case of shooting yourself in the foot from ICC

14 is a tad too much. 12 would have made better sense. We are still going to see some lopsided games involving Kenya and Canada. How does that really help them improve? if they are going to be shot out for 70's and get massacred in less than 20 overs.

Added to that ICC missed the trick. They should have had qualifiers and not this. BD,WI and ZIM don't have the right to go play without playing qualifiers. Now we are going to see a bloated pool phase without a direction.

Sigh!!!

Sigh.

The point of the World Cup is that it's a world event. Offering 2 qualifying places for the 80 or so nations below Full Member status is a joke.

The point in having teams like Kenya and Canada isn't necessarily about improving them here and now, it's about raising the profile of the game in the country for the future. You can't inspire people from Canada, Ireland etc to play the game if you don't give them a shot at featuring at the biggest tournament.

The 'quality games' argument holds equally true for football. In terms of quality there's no point in having a World Cup of more than 8 teams - 6 from Western Europe and Argentina and Brazil. I'm fairly sure aby football fan who seriously suggested that would be laughed at. The same applies to cricket fans who make equally elitist arguments.

 

[Howe_zat]

Speaking of "Quality games", doesn't everyone remember how awesome a match Australia vs New Zealand was at the World Cup?

I'm so happy I watched that rather than some predictable tripe like England vs Ireland.

 

[gvenkat]

Sigh.

The point of the World Cup is that it's a world event. Offering 2 qualifying places for the 80 or so nations below Full Member status is a joke.

The point in having teams like Kenya and Canada isn't necessarily about improving them here and now, it's about raising the profile of the game in the country for the future. You can't inspire people from Canada, Ireland etc to play the game if you don't give them a shot at featuring at the biggest tournament.

The 'quality games' argument holds equally true for football. In terms of quality there's no point in having a World Cup of more than 8 teams - 6 from Western Europe and Argentina and Brazil. I'm fairly sure aby football fan who seriously suggested that would be laughed at. The same applies to cricket fans who make equally elitist arguments.

Have you seen the Canadian Team? How many Canadians are there?
Have you seen the Dutch Team? How many Dutch are there?

It's not about getting these teams and throwing them under the bus. There should have been a qualification process which should have included the bottom Three or Four from the ODI rankings. You can take a look at the matches involving the so called "Associates" who in reality are minnows and get back to me with the results. There will be a handful of upsets and the rest of the games would have been incredibly boring and one-sided.

These lower ranked teams did not want to risk a qualifier and hence they voted for a 14 team format.

 

[gvenkat]

Speaking of "Quality games", doesn't everyone remember how awesome a match Australia vs New Zealand was at the World Cup?

I'm so happy I watched that rather than some predictable tripe like England vs Ireland.

What's your point mate? Apart from the Ireland games, All other minnows were plain worthless. FFS, Even Bangladesh was worthless..

 

[_Ed_]

What's your point mate? Apart from the Ireland games, All other minnows were plain worthless.

Strongly disagree. RTD's innings against England was phenomenal, and Hiral Patel's onslaught against Australia was fantastic as well - both rate among my highlights of the tournament.

 

[Daemon]

What's your point mate? Apart from the Ireland games, All other minnows were plain worthless. FFS, Even Bangladesh was worthless..

Bangladesh beat England

 

[GIMH]

If Jake's twitter link is reliable then my assumption of what's happened is this.

They decided, for whatever reason, they had to back down on the associate embargo. Be that pressure from various boards, worldwide uproar, reading Cricket Web, it doesn't matter. They backed down.

However, they probably figured that with the time these things can take to organise, there wasn't time to implement the sort of qualification process they would lilke to, so it's a case of sticking to the 2011 format, pretty much down to a t

2019 though, is plenty of time away. Therefore their ideal 10-team format can be implemented and they have a couple of years to prepare the qualification process.

Or it could be the spin the bottle approach to running world cricket, I dunno.

Either way, I'm just glad Uppercut aint gonna kill himself