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**Official** Sri Lanka in England / Scotland - 2011

Woodster

International Captain
It does look as though we're not thinking of batting too long, and doing all we can to get into a position where we can have a good bowl at SL, if the weather isn't kind that cannot be helped, but at least get as many as we can and should it be ok then a possible declaration can be made before the start of play.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
I don't think Nasser has realized England, have been going, at nearly 5 rpo, for near an hour and a half before Morgan came in.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
Poor Belly, that will do his nut in overnight.
Good stuff from England but the game has sort of meandered along, still if England can bat tomorrow, for 20 overs or so and put as many on as they can, you never know what can happen, all depends if there is a full day of cricket, really.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
I'm sick of hearing these little complaints about Trott, jesus they guy averages 70, at just under 50 runs per 100 balls, that's very similar to most top 5 players in international cricket.
When I'm watching Sky, it's almost as if, the commentators are having to defend him from detractors.
 

Bun

Banned
what can I say. eng really didnt take initiative to inject life into this. sl didnt help either. overall a test match to forget after first day.

hopefully we get better conditions and pitches in coming matches. stuff like these kill test cricket.
 

flibbertyjibber

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what can I say. eng really didnt take initiative to inject life into this. sl didnt help either. overall a test match to forget after first day.

hopefully we get better conditions and pitches in coming matches. stuff like these kill test cricket.
Bit harsh, the amount of overs bowled so far is the equivalent of it being half an hour into day 4 if we hadn't lost so much time to the weather. If that was the case everyone would be saying how strong a position England were in and should go on to win the game. Weather has been the winner in this game.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
I'm sick of hearing these little complaints about Trott, jesus they guy averages 70, at just under 50 runs per 100 balls, that's very similar to most top 5 players in international cricket.
When I'm watching Sky, it's almost as if, the commentators are having to defend him from detractors.
The Sky commentators tend to form a collective view about an issue early on, and it's very often wrong, but that doesn't stop them banging on about it ad nauseam. That said, it is true that Trott is quite one-paced in Test cricket, although as you point out that particular pace isn't actually all that slow.

Anyway the Trott-and-Cook statistical phenomenon continues - and it's ridiculously enjoyable.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
I'm sick of hearing these little complaints about Trott, jesus they guy averages 70, at just under 50 runs per 100 balls, that's very similar to most top 5 players in international cricket.
When I'm watching Sky, it's almost as if, the commentators are having to defend him from detractors.
Some England batsmen with worse strike rates in Tests than Jonathan Trott:

Ted Dexter
Robin Smith
Denis Compton
Jack Hobbs
Tom Graveney
Wally Hammond
Peter May
Basil d’Oliveira
Colin Cowdrey
Derek Randall
Chris Broad
Wayne Larkins
Herbert Sutcliffe
Mike Gatting
Graham Thorpe
Tony Grieg
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
I'm sick of hearing these little complaints about Trott, jesus they guy averages 70, at just under 50 runs per 100 balls, that's very similar to most top 5 players in international cricket.
When I'm watching Sky, it's almost as if, the commentators are having to defend him from detractors.
... and some batsmen from other countries with worse Test strike rates.

Desmond Haynes
Martin Crowe
Navjot Sidhu
Neil Harvey
Alan Kippax
Richie Richardson
Ramnaresh Sarwan
Roy Fredericks
Alvin Kalicharran
Murray Goodwin
Javed Miandad
Bert Sutcliffe
Stephen Fleming
Ian Chappell
Majid Khan
Bobby Simpson
Andy Flower
 

Woodster

International Captain
Jon Trott is proving an outstanding number three for England, and I will openly admit to having my doubts about him in the early stages of his Test career and prior to that. I couldn't quite put my finger on why I wasn't so keen on him, there were no obvious major deficiencies, yes he has a tendency to work it through the legside that was highlighted when he wasn't scoring as heavily, but I just didn't take to his style. Maybe early on I couldn't quite work out what his actual style was.

Now everyone knows his method. He's not a fantastically attractive strokeplayer, maybe that was my problem with him initially, but he is superbly effective. He accumulates his runs, has an unflappable temperament about him, and is a great timer of the ball. His focus is at times reported as a negative, he goes too far into his own bubble and maybe doesn't appreciate the match situation as well as he should, but that single-mindedness is certainly a positive aswell and it shows in his hunger and selfish greed to score runs aplenty and not get bored, he rarely gifts his wicket away.

I've really grown to enjoy Trott for what he is, and the fact he really can go on and become one of the very best in the world, if he isn't already. His stats may not be quite as impressive in two years time, but I am seriously enjoying him while he's in such terrific nick. His placement through the legside today was superb, and his game is in great order.

I am certainly a Trott-believer, and let's hope for another successful summer.
 

Bun

Banned
trott is more barrington than gower agree, but any team would love to have one of those acting like a superglue at no.3. heck, even india would love to, atm.

but then that doesnt discount fact that this has largely been a flat deck, and that is not going to so gud for test cricket.

would love to see whether any team has had a lower rr than eng after batting more than 140 overs in the first inngs in the last 5 or 6 years. will be really surprised.

flibberty agree that this match has lost its fair share to weather, but hard to see even with no time lost, sl having to bat out more than 4 sessions on this wicket, which frankly isn't a huge ask given the conditions.
 

Howe_zat

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trott is more barrington than gower agree, but any team would love to have one of those acting like a superglue at no.3. heck, even india would love to, atm.

but then that doesnt discount fact that this has largely been a flat deck, and that is not going to so gud for test cricket.

would love to see whether any team has had a lower rr than eng after batting more than 140 overs in the first inngs in the last 5 or 6 years. will be really surprised.

flibberty agree that this match has lost its fair share to weather, but hard to see even with no time lost, sl having to bat out more than 4 sessions on this wicket, which frankly isn't a huge ask given the conditions.
Yes, there are. 42, in fact. And not just because that's the answer to everything.

3.2 is a completely average Test run rate, and I really don't know what you're on about here. Considering the defensive tactics by Sri Lanka, it's not bad going at all. I'd like to see a team score at 4-5 an over throughout without losing wickets when there's boundary sweepers all the time.

The pitch isn't even that bad, though it is a little slow. It's the rain that's ruined the game.
 
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superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Geez when I was a kid anything over 3 an over was lightning, and i'm not that old. I remember suffereing a day watching David Boon accumulate runs for Australia at OT, now that was soporific.
 

Neil Pickup

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Would love to see whether any team has had a lower rr than eng after batting more than 140 overs in the first inngs in the last 5 or 6 years. Will be really surprised.
Since January 2005, there have been 32 instances of teams batting for more than 140 overs in the first innings and scoring more slowly than England's 3.209, currently set in Cardiff: Statsguru.

South Africa: 9
Australia: 5
India: 4
Pakistan: 4
West Indies: 4
England: 2
New Zealand: 2
Sri Lanka: 2

It's a right pain in the arse when facts get in the way, isn't it?
 

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