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Alastair Cook is England's ODI Captain

Spark

Global Moderator
I really don't mind Broad as the T20 captain.

My feelings on T20 is generally summed up by calling it hit-n-giggle cricket, with the disclaimer that I do like a good giggle.

So I'd like T20 around just to be as entertaining as it can be. With that in mind, Broad is a pants decision. His interviews are utterly terrible. His speech at the press conference today?



Ugh. I had to take around six goes to read it because I kept mentally shutting down halfway through. It must be a feature that when utterly nothing you've said means anything, people find it hard to tell the words apart.

Not only that but... hang on a second.



What



Oh god no



Kill me, kill me now
Wow. I've heard Strauss and Clarke a lot, but that surely has to take the cake. Synergy...
 

hang on

State Vice-Captain
Him hinting he wants a shot at the ODI captaincy shows how much of a **** he is, really.
really?! why is that? cook can't even make the team and gets the captaincy.

interestingly, there was a formal interview process and it seems like kp was one of those spoken with (to, morelike). wonder how this would affect his morale? i am firmly in the camp of those who feel that he was hard done by during the whole moores fracas of a couple of years back.

also, if kp had been made captain, a clear divide could have been made between the test and odi sides i.e. the odi captain wouldn't be breathing down strauss's neck.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Well if you're going to talk about not being able to make the team then KP has no right to the captaincy either.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
really?! why is that?
Because, basically, Peitersen is a terrible ODI batsman at the moment. He's averaged about 20 since the beginning of 2009. Unless you think Cook will have the same output in ODIs as a tail-ender, There's no way he can be worse than Peitersen. If KP wasn't an integral part of the test setup, I reckon he might very well have been dropped by now from the ODI side.
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
Because, basically, Peitersen is a terrible ODI batsman at the moment. He's averaged about 20 since the beginning of 2009. Unless you think Cook will have the same output in ODIs as a tail-ender, There's no way he can be worse than Peitersen. If KP wasn't an integral part of the test setup, I reckon he might very well have been dropped by now from the ODI side.
His T20 performances have kept him in the side too - if he were only performing in Tests he may have given up limited overs cricket altogether by now.

It's one of the reasons his lack of recent scores in ODIs is a bit of a mystery. He's still got an outstanding T20 record, his Test performances have been decent lately, why wouldn't he fire in the "in-between" format?

I wouldn't have too many qualms about him being dropped at this stage, but so long as he's looking good somewhere, it's a reasonable line of thought to persist with him.
 

hang on

State Vice-Captain
teja,

but kp has proved his potential at the odi level, quite spectacularly, despite his current form travails, while cook hasn't. it could be argued that someone who has proved himself in a format should be given preference over some one who hasn't (and whose game is, arguably, not suited to the format in the first place). hardly makes kp a u know what for believing or hinting that he could be captain.

not saying that he should be, but if cook can be then...
 

Spark

Global Moderator
KP doesn't deserve to be in the side at all on merit. Two fifties in two years is just appalling.
 

keeper

U19 Vice-Captain
Not a complete surprise is it?

Those looking for logic in the Cook decision will struggle because a degree of the decision has been based in the judgement of Flower and others on the actuality and potential of Cook's leadership, personality and batting. To be fair, Flower knows more than us, even if my first choice would a combined Test/ODI skipper who is a proven regular in both teams.

Interesting about Pietersen. I have been a supporter over the years but he needs to snap out of his post captaincy/marriage/injury hangover and get back some form instead of living off former glories. Incidentally, remember Strauss having a slump after a captaincy rejection but the chance has gone now for KP with the Broad decision so he needs to decide what he wants. I hope he finds his form but I hope the selectors are ruthless if he doesn't.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
KP doesn't deserve to be in the side at all on merit. Two fifties in two years is just appalling.
It's interesting when you look at KP's stats, in 2007 he played 25 games, 2008 21 games, during his bad run in 2009 and 2010, he's played only 8 and 9 games in each. He has been in a bad run of form, but I don't think other things have helped him, like injuries and just not getting his game right in OdI's because he hasn't been playing the amount of games, he has in previous years.
This year he's averaging 32 and has already played more games than the previous two, so maybe we might get him back to something like.
In the WC, before he went home, I thought he looked good and we'd see a big score out of him, especially in the India game, before that unlucky caught and bowled, even in the other games he looks in really good form, then manages to find a way to get out. I personally think it's a bit of a monkey on his back and he needs a 100, for it to change.
 
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superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
I think his performances had dropped off so much that he doesn't warrant a place in the side. From memory even though we won the T20 WC his personal performance was pretty poor. Since then both his test and ODI performances have dropped off so I can see why the selectors didn't think he was an option.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
I think his performances had dropped off so much that he doesn't warrant a place in the side. From memory even though we won the T20 WC his personal performance was pretty poor. Since then both his test and ODI performances have dropped off so I can see why the selectors didn't think he was an option.
He was Man of the tournament in the T20 WC and scored in all the last 8 matches he was in and also in the final, so I don't know how he doesn't warrant his place there. His form in the T20 stuff has been good and in the Ashes he looked back to his best even though he only got one really big score, but in 6 innings, a double and two half centuries, is pretty good.
In the last 2 years even though people have been calling for his head, he's still averaged 42in test cricket. There's no doubt, this will be a big summer for him personally in Tests and also if he gets picked for the ODi team, to prove to himself and the doubters.
 

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