Alastair Cook is England's ODI Captain

[NasserFan207]

Really surprised with Broad's appointment.I think it will end in shambles.He doesn't come across as someone who can inspire a team IMO.

Its only T20 though, whats the worst that can happen honestly

 

[Bun]

Who'd have though Afridi, would make a decent captain.
Personally, I think, the added responsibility, will bring maturity to his game. It's only in T20, so it's hardly test cricket, it's a good place, to see if he's up to it.

afridi is a very good t20 player. and also a very good odi bowler.

personally dont think t20 can be a testing ground for future test caps, (lol at broad captaining eng in whites, but assuming he'll do well). we saw in case of clarke that.

 

[Jacknife]

afridi is a very good t20 player. and also a very good odi bowler.

personally dont think t20 can be a testing ground for future test caps, (lol at broad captaining eng in whites, but assuming he'll do well). we saw in case of clarke that.

Never said he wasn't. but you wouldn't have put him down as a future captain, a year ago with his on field antics. Broad is also a very good bowler in T20 and Odi's and is certain of his place.

 

[tooextracool]

I dont think that the comparisons with Afridi are fair because Afridi seems like a bloke who is well-liked by his team mates and rarely displayed the kind of fits and tantrums against his own team mates in the manner which Broad does. To me, in a pressure situation, I know that Afridi would be more likely to keep his cool than Broad, and I think as a player you always turn to your captain to show the kind of composure that reassures you to perform at the best of your ability. A captain that is routinely caught in disputes with the opposing batsmen sets a poor example for the rest of the team.

I'm also a little bit biased against Broad because I believe that the era of fast bowlers being captains has well passed not only because I think that the majority of them are overly aggressive and have way too much self-belief (I wouldn't be surprised if Broad over-bowled himself even when he was getting caned around the park). Mostly however, I think that fast bowlers are more injury prone than any other type of player and hence I would lean against having them as captain.

Given the kind of stamp of approval that Broad has been given by Vaughan, Im not completely against him having a shot at the captaincy, but I think it is quite obvious that I would have gone in another direction.

 

[Spark]

afridi is a very good t20 player. and also a very good odi bowler.

personally dont think t20 can be a testing ground for future test caps, (lol at broad captaining eng in whites, but assuming he'll do well). we saw in case of clarke that.

That's not because he was a **** captain though. He showed that he was a very good T20 captain. Problem was he was a **** T20 player. Not the case with Broad.

 

[hang on]

cook as captain, i could, just about, handle.

but now they have gone and pissed in the stuey with the 20-20 appointment. will the petulant petal be able to keep from flouncing off if things don't pan out as daddy had planned?

oh, and please keep from turning around to appeal, stuey....might tear another ab muscle.

 

[Bun]

That's not because he was a **** captain though. He showed that he was a very good T20 captain. Problem was he was a **** T20 player. Not the case with Broad.

broad a good t20 player? only mem of hims is getting carted for six sixes by yuvi

 

[Jacknife]

I dont think that the comparisons with Afridi are fair because Afridi seems like a bloke who is well-liked by his team mates and rarely displayed the kind of fits and tantrums against his own team mates in the manner which Broad does. To me, in a pressure situation, I know that Afridi would be more likely to keep his cool than Broad, and I think as a player you always turn to your captain to show the kind of composure that reassures you to perform at the best of your ability. A captain that is routinely caught in disputes with the opposing batsmen sets a poor example for the rest of the team.

I'm also a little bit biased against Broad because I believe that the era of fast bowlers being captains has well passed not only because I think that the majority of them are overly aggressive and have way too much self-belief (I wouldn't be surprised if Broad over-bowled himself even when he was getting caned around the park). Mostly however, I think that fast bowlers are more injury prone than any other type of player and hence I would lean against having them as captain.

Given the kind of stamp of approval that Broad has been given by Vaughan, Im not completely against him having a shot at the captaincy, but I think it is quite obvious that I would have gone in another direction.

Your joking aren't you, I've seen Afridi, have a right go at his fielders and bowlers when things are going wrong.
As far as bowling himself too much, it is only T20 and 4 overs at the most, if which he usually bowls 2 up front and 2 at the end. Like I've said before, I think making him Captain will mature him.
I agree, fast bowlers not really being the most ideal Captains in test cricket because of the injury problems and that's probably why we don't see that many in modern times. I know Freddy was one for over bowling himself, even when it wasn't in his best interests.
I think, it has to be kept in mind, that Broad is only the T20 captain, where many of the negatives of fast bowlers being made captain don't count.

 

[Spark]

ER of 7.4 - not terrible, but in the last three years that has been 6.1, 7.1, 6.4.

 

[Jacknife]

broad a good t20 player? only mem of hims is getting carted for six sixes by yuvi

 

[GIMH]

broad a good t20 player? only mem of hims is getting carted for six sixes by yuvi

What a **** post.

You do know he was probably our best bowler when we WON the World T20? And the best bowler in the team when we set a Twenty20 world record for successive wins?

Try getting a clue before you post nonsense. The Yuvi thing was ages ago and it's nothing short of ******** to judge him on that.

 

[four_or_six]

broad a good t20 player? only mem of hims is getting carted for six sixes by yuvi

Broad is one of our best T20 players (and ODI too). That's why he was one of the few that got IPL contracts this year.

I guess the weird thing in one way is that they didn't give Broad the ODI gig too.

 

[Bun]

ooh... ok geriant whatever u think...

 

[Jacknife]

ooh... ok geriant whatever u think...

He's obviously not the only one that thinks this.

 

[Bun]

Broad is one of our best T20 players (and ODI too). That's why he was one of the few that got IPL contracts this year.

I guess the weird thing in one way is that they didn't give Broad the ODI gig too.

firstly I dont believe him getting an ipl contract shud be and end of his performance appraisal.

I hardly follow twenty twenty int, I think the sample size is too small and dispersed across time to really have a call.. for me the only memory of broad is getting hit for all those sixers and a facepalm losing to holland in 09. since then lost interest in int t20.

his eco rate isnt gumho either and personally he's come across as a haha to borrow a usage, petulant petal. he is overrated imho.

and geraint, dont go hyper like this.

 

[Jacknife]

firstly I dont believe him getting an ipl contract shud be and end of his performance appraisal.

I hardly follow twenty twenty int, I think the sample size is too small and dispersed across time to really have a call.. for me the only memory of broad is getting hit for all those sixers and a facepalm losing to holland in 09. since then lost interest in int t20.

his eco rate isnt gumho either and personally he's come across as a haha to borrow a usage, petulant petal. he is overrated imho.

and geraint, dont go hyper like this.

So by your own admission, you don't follow T20, therefore how can you speak and the only thing you can bring up against Broad is something that happened over 4 years ago, when he was 19. Great form mate.

 

[GIMH]

firstly I dont believe him getting an ipl contract shud be and end of his performance appraisal.

I hardly follow twenty twenty int, I think the sample size is too small and dispersed across time to really have a call.. for me the only memory of broad is getting hit for all those sixers and a facepalm losing to holland in 09. since then lost interest in int t20.

his eco rate isnt gumho either and personally he's come across as a haha to borrow a usage, petulant petal. he is overrated imho.

and geraint, dont go hyper like this.

So basically, you just happen to only remember two games he got embarassed in? Convenient. And btw, great backpedalling, you've gone from laughing at his T20 credentials to claiming to have lost interest in the format.

Here's an idea - if you've lost interest in something, don't try and make current arguments about it.

And even in that Holland game, it was fielding he ****ed up. Bowled quite well at the death to even take it to the last ball.

 

[Bun]

So by your own admission, you don't follow T20, therefore how can you speak and the only thing you can bring up against Broad is something that happened over 4 years ago, when he was 19. Great form mate.

why being a teenager shud insulate his record or what?

its not as if he has suddenly metamorphised into world's best bowler or anything.....

 

[Jacknife]

why being a teenager shud insulate his record or what?

its not as if he has suddenly metamorphised into world's best bowler or anything.....

If you don't know, I think we'll leave it there.

 

[Spark]

Nah Bun this is an absurd line of argument. It's one thing not rating him as captain, but not rating him as a T20 player is just bizarre.