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*Official* Match 24 - New Zealand v Pakistan

Who will win this match?


  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .

Blaze 18

Banned
There's only one person to blame for that loss. He knows who he is.
Haha yeah, no prizes for guessing who that is. That said, the bowlers deserve some flak for conceding ninety-two freaking runs off the last four overs. That is almost a boundary every single ball! Unpardonable.
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Cheers mate, they are a decent ODI side, so despite their poor run and being humiliated by Bangladesh it shows how well we were playing to keep them down in the fashion we did, they certainly wont want to face us in the quarters that is for sure.
I think you'd fit in nicely at the Indian Cricket Fever forum.
 

Ausage

Cricketer Of The Year
Great result for Australia. Cheers Kiwis. :)

Stoked for Taylor as well. Hated seeing him is such a **** patch, great to see him come out of it.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
I'm doing my best, but it's really hard not to be cynical about the outcome of this match. Two dolly's in an over followed by 100 off the last 5...

Perhaps its too blatant to have been fixed. On the other hand, maybe that's what the bookies want us to think!

Seriously though, it's great to see Rossco back in form, but if Danny is out of the tournament I think we can kiss our semi chances goodbye.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Really happy with that performance from NZ. All sorts of things to like about it, with Taylor's return to form being the main one. It also means we're a chance to finish 2nd or 3rd in the group and may get an (allegedly) easier opponent in the quarter finals.

Vettori getting injured is a real blow though. I haven't seen any info around about the result of scans etc and whether he'll be ok for some of the rest of the tournament.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
I'm doing my best, but it's really hard not to be cynical about the outcome of this match. Two dolly's in an over followed by 100 off the last 5...

Perhaps its too blatant to have been fixed. On the other hand, maybe that's what the bookies want us to think!
Agree with this. At the very least you could truthfully say that Pakistan didn't need to win this match. I'm just focusing on the way NZ played - can only beat what's put in front of you and the match (and those drops) definitely played Taylor back into form, so it's a good result for us.
 

Ausage

Cricketer Of The Year
I think you might be overcomplicating K Akmal. I think he's really that bad of a wicketkeeper. He's missed plenty of opportunities when Pakistan have won games too and there's no way he'd play it up when he didn't need to if he was fixing regularly. He's just a below park standard wicket keeper who's playing in the world cup for some reason.

Serious question to Pakistani fans, don't you have anyone better? Gilchrist dropped a catch like that and it caused him to retire FFS.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Congratulations to NZ. What a dominating performance! In fact, I think it’s the most dominating win of the tournament considering two full members were involved. Ross Taylor, WAG!! So can we now consider NZ the dark horses to win the World Cup, instead of Pakistan?
No thanks, you're not getting rid of that tag that easily! It's poisonous.

Am concerned we may have poked our noses above the radar now and other teams won't write us off. Might have to lose to Canada now :sleep:
 

Agent Nationaux

International Coach
I fully expect Taylor's next 100 to come on the 8th of March 2012. His current century will keep the hype going. :)

As to the people who now consider Pakistan's bowling attack as rubbish after this one performance; I would like to remind them that smacking Akhtar and Razzaq isn't that impressive, especially considering that both are past their prime and are rubbish with the old ball. Once Wahab and Junaid come into the team, I don't think this will be ever repeated.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
As to the people who now consider Pakistan's bowling attack as rubbish after this one performance; I would like to remind them that smacking Akhtar and Razzaq isn't that impressive, especially considering that both are past their prime and are rubbish with the old ball. Once Wahab and Junaid come into the team, I don't think this will be ever repeated.
Umm, Akhtar is our opening bowler and Razzaq is considered a key part of the team balance. We’re focusing on the WC right now. Who cares if this will be repeated in the future? These two are important keys to our success in the present WC.
 

Burgey

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I fully expect Taylor's next 100 to come on the 8th of March 2012. His current century will keep the hype going. :)

As to the people who now consider Pakistan's bowling attack as rubbish after this one performance; I would like to remind them that smacking Akhtar and Razzaq isn't that impressive, especially considering that both are past their prime and are rubbish with the old ball. Once Wahab and Junaid come into the team, I don't think this will be ever repeated.
That's a massive call mate. Everyone gets belted at some point.

Understand your disappointment, but there's massive sour grapes in that post. Pakistan were there own worst enemy. Maybe they should replace their keeper, instead of their bowlers.
 

Agent Nationaux

International Coach
That's a massive call mate. Everyone gets belted at some point.

Understand your disappointment, but there's massive sour grapes in that post. Pakistan were there own worst enemy. Maybe they should replace their keeper, instead of their bowlers.
You are right in saying that I'm hugely disappointed and angry, but you have to admit that Akhtar and Razzaq are simply not good at the death anymore, especially considering that they are nearing the end of their careers. I mean what else did you expect of Razzaq ffs. Wahab is a very good prospect and would have done a lot better in the situation. Once he learns how to bowl the in swinger to the right-hander, he will become very dangerous.
 

Burgey

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You are right in saying that I'm hugely disappointed and angry, but you have to admit that Akhtar and Razzaq are simply not good at the death anymore, especially considering that they are nearing the end of their careers. I mean what else did you expect of Razzaq ffs. Wahab is a very good prospect and would have done a lot better in the situation. Once he learns how to bowl the in swinger to the right-hander, he will become very dangerous.
Yeah you may well be right.

I think this match may become the model for coaches to show their young cricketers just how important catches and discipline are. Even after the drops, with five overs to gorge match was at worst evenly poised. Then that. Was insane hitting. Even by T20 standards, o can't say I've ever seen anything like it before.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Jeez, when we've won lately, we've run the other side over with a truck.

The test is to play well consistently. Only then will I believe.
 

Agent Nationaux

International Coach
Yeah you may well be right.

I think this match may become the model for coaches to show their young cricketers just how important catches and discipline are. Even after the drops, with five overs to gorge match was at worst evenly poised. Then that. Was insane hitting. Even by T20 standards, o can't say I've ever seen anything like it before.
I think this match is also a very good example because it shows how intelligent strategy can win you matches. When Taylor took the power-play early, it meant that Gull finished all his overs, resulting in the rape we all witnessed.
 

Maximus0723

State Regular
Nice to see NZ win.. The posters of NZ here, almost all of them, are awesome :)



But TBF, the same can be said about the Pakistan posters here, who are a great lot themselves.
Sad for them to see such a loss.. But might just be the wake up call Pak needed.
Agree with both.
 

BeeGee

International Captain
I think this match is also a very good example because it shows how intelligent strategy can win you matches. When Taylor took the power-play early, it meant that Gull finished all his overs, resulting in the rape we all witnessed.
That's a very good point! The batting power-play has been notoriously badly used since it was introduced. Teams that tried experimenting with taking it early would often end up losing wickets as soon as the took it, and it got to the point where it seemed like some teams almost viewed it as an annoyance and just defaulted to taking it in the last 5 overs.

As you point out, one of the ways to use the PP is as a mechanism to force the opposition to change it's bowling plans. I think the tactical use of the PP is very poorly utilized.
 
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