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*Official* Match 21 - England v South Africa

Who will win this match?


  • Total voters
    25
  • Poll closed .

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Gah, was really hoping Trott would score a few more runs and get a bit closer to Strauss.
 

Daemon

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England still in it thanks to the partnership. Need to reach the 40th over safely then assess from there. Can't afford another collapse
 

vcs

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Anyone know what the commentators estimated to be a par score at the start of the game? Given England batted first, they'd have looked for 250 at the very least.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
England still in it thanks to the partnership. Need to reach the 40th over safely then assess from there. Can't afford another collapse
TBF, we won't know what;s a good a total til SA bat.

My guess is they'll be something like 100/0 off the first ten.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Anyone know what the commentators estimated to be a par score at the start of the game? Given England batted first, they'd have looked for 250 at the very least.
Jackman keeps saying 240 is the average score batting first; reckon we'll nedd more but would so take that from here.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Will any of the South African bowlers be bowled out? Morne and Tahir still have 5 each and Steyn's got 4 left.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
What a joke Prior is. Can't open, can't finish. Send KP home and bring over Kes.
His selection was always quite weird.

England selectors first of all left him out for Kieswetter and then went for Davies and all of a sudden they plomped for Prior a few matches into the Aus series. To me that sent the wrong messages.

With Kes are you referring to Kieswetter?

Tell me a bit about that Jos Buttler at Somerset?
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Gives me very little pleasure in being right, but...

Yardy looking all kinds of turd out there.
Vic Marks on Michael - Yardy is to be lauded to the skies – name another cricketer who has the wit to play as a batsman in domestic cricket yet who gains selection as a bowler at international level.
 

pskov

International 12th Man
Vic Marks on Michael - Yardy is to be lauded to the skies – name another cricketer who has the wit to play as a batsman in domestic cricket yet who gains selection as a bowler at international level.
Cameron White?

Marcus North kind of?
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Tell me a bit about that Jos Buttler at Somerset?
I've never seen him keep, but his batting is amazingly inventive. Scores at 150 and plays proper cricket shots, has elastic wrists and is great at manipulating the ball. Strong boy too. Has a good case to play for Engalnd as a specialist batsman in the limited overs formats, as he does at Somerset, in fact (due to Kieswetter keeping).
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
His selection was always quite weird.

England selectors first of all left him out for Kieswetter and then went for Davies and all of a sudden they plomped for Prior a few matches into the Aus series. To me that sent the wrong messages.

With Kes are you referring to Kieswetter?

Tell me a bit about that Jos Buttler at Somerset?
Yeah. Would have been my choice as opening partner for Strauss. Was exposed against the Aussie quicks last summer but on these slow, low wickets, Kes is the sort of cricketer who would excel and he has form for scoring runs out in the subcontinent. If not, then Davies did nothing which warranted being axed for Prior.

Don't know much about Jos. Only saw him twice last year but he seems like a talent and appears to be a proper keeper as well. Kes may have to just concentrate on his batting from now on.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
I've never seen him keep, but his batting is amazingly inventive. Scores at 150 and plays proper cricket shots, has elastic wrists and is great at manipulating the ball. Strong boy too. Has a good case to play for Engalnd as a specialist batsman in the limited overs formats, as he does at Somerset, in fact (due to Kieswetter keeping).
Cheers, mate. I've heard a lot of good things about the lad. Obviously this WC was too early for him.

Is Kieswetter the answer though for the ODI keeper in the future?
 

pskov

International 12th Man
Cheers, mate. I've heard a lot of good things about the lad. Obviously this WC was too early for him.

Is Kieswetter the answer though for the ODI keeper in the future?
Should be Davies really - he wasn't just the best keeper-batsman in domestic one dayers last season, he was one of the best batsman full stop. Averaged 47.44 opening the innings for Surrey. Edit: That actually included 5 ODIs, his domestic only record was even better.

I could see both him and Kieswetter playing in the same side though.
 
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SeamUp

International Coach
SA also has a problem on who to pick as the future keeper in ODI.

AB or Van Wyk and we've also got a super young talent in Quinton De Kock.

Boucher and Kuhn will very much be the test keepers.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Ravi gonesville; played around a straight one, really.

Worth the review, but always a forlorn hope.

Just on the run outs with the bat bouncing up, I think Nasser is unaware the rule has been changed to say batsman can't now be run out if the bat is initially grounded without the wicket being broken and then comes up on impact.
 

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