Mike5181
International Captain
Its just that you shouldn't change your whole approach to the innings/change your whole game plan based on 5 overs.
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*Official* - Pakistan in New Zealand 2010/2011
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Zinzan
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Lol KiWiNiNjA, your cynicism is reaching epic proportions. It's remarkable the impact NZ cricket has had on it's fans lately
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Can you elaborate on that?
KiWiNiNjA
International Coach
Yeah, you'd think they'd to some research, or at least use their brains.
Most of the time when there is a set batsman, they wait too long and he gets out before taking it. Well, basically all the time.
They should be more flexible, even leave it to the batsman in the middle. I can understand leaving it till after the compulsory ball change, but can't see why it can't be taken anywhere between 15-25.
It could be used to release pressure, like when Razzaq and Afridi were tying Guptill and Ryder down, or when you clearly have a batsman who is set and wants to hit out. He should be able to take it in such a case.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
The players and coaches have done stats on when the best time to take the power play is. The commentators are bored watching people take singles and want some excitement. Hence the disconnect in views on when to take the power play.
Vettori said in an interview that they analysed it at length and the best time to take it was at late as possible.
Zinzan
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Oh, you were meaning his wild swinging & missing towards the end, right you are
KiWiNiNjA
International Coach
Lol KiWiNiNjA, your cynicism is reaching epic proportions. It's remarkable the impact NZ cricket has had on it's fans lately
What's epic is the incompetence of the people in power.
slugger
State Vice-Captain
but thats the trick/skill using those 5 overs upsets the whole game plan of the bowling team... why play to a pre-dertermined script.
thats why the icc introduced the pp to upsets a "normal" flow of an ODI game.
Zinzan
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No argument from me there
What's epic is the incompetence of the people in power.
Pakistan
slugger
State Vice-Captain
but what does that mean "late as possible" 45-50 overs regardless of situation.
when all regcognised batsmen are back in the hatch.
that stat seems flawed.. because there are not many international teams that have used at different times other than the usually above circumstances.
Mike5181
International Captain
Yeah, if you encourage your set batsmen to hit over the top etc in the middle overs where really you should be taking singles/keeping wickets in hand etc you risk having bowlers batting in the last ten overs where you have to attack regardless. So your essentially backing an idea of capitalizing within 5 overs while possibly risking capitalizing in 10 overs.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
4 off the first ball for Tanveer. What is Afridi thinking?
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
That's what annoys you - but not what annoys the commentators based on what they actually say and the timing of when they say it.
Would Ryder have been dismissed today if we had've taken the PP when it was clear he wanted to slog. Who knows. But possibly yes there were some wild hoiks going on where he was losing all shape.
What is my real point? I think PPs are risky and can backfire - I would rather take them at the stage of the game when it is assured that we won't run out of batting resources.