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*Official* Fifth Test at the SCG

Top_Cat

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Yeah, but he bowls well. :unsure:

Surely he's played his last test.
Nah, just needs some wickets, for Tasmania mainly. He was injured for most of last year, thrown back into the Test side and expected to take wickets. Big ask with no form to speak of.

It's a continuation of the selector's trend in picking blokes they like rather than guys who are actually in form. Hughes and Smith, woefully short of form and confidence, *boom* Test spot. Usman, picked in form, looked like he was born to play Tests. Well, waddayaknow.
 
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Redbacks

International Captain
Grieg picked the wierd positioning of Hilfs thumb on the ball. Rather than down the seam, he has it perpendicular. Can't help but feel this glitch affects his ability to get late swing and ideally the thumb should be imparting a little backspin on the ball as it leaves the hand. Can only think that his method will be less repeateable and affect his ability to bowl with the seam at slightly different angles. He does appear a one trick pony.
 

BoyBrumby

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Nah, just needs some wickets, for Tasmania mainly. He was injured for most of last year, thrown back into the Test side and expected to take wickets. Big ask with no form to speak of at a lower level.

It's a continuation of the selector's trend in picking blokes they like rather than guys who are actually in form. Hughes and Smith, woefully short of form and confidence, *boom* Test spot.
Absolutely agree with this. Oz selectors do seem to play favourites. Hauritz seems the latest in a line of blokes whose face/personality doesn't quite fit so is excluded for lesser players.

Can Australia really afford to do it anymore now tho? When the likes of Law, Love & Hodge were (maybe) never given a fair crack for reasons other than cricketing ones the competition was a lot fiercer.
 

Burgey

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Both stands by his words. "Hughes is a cheat sez Sir Ian": official.

No way Hughes's fingers were under it as far as I can see tho.
This **** has been done to death though. And inevitably, if it's someone from the team the commentator supports it's "oh they didn't know it bounced, very hard to tell coming forward" etc. Yet when it's am opposing player it's "he definitely knew it bounced, how can't he know? He's a cheat etc".

It rank stuff, assuming Botham is being accurately reported here (an I dot doubt he is). If Cook says Hughes told him he wasn't sure on the field and has no problem with it, well it ill-behoves a bloke in the comm box to say otherwise.

As someone pointed out yesterday, that stuff isn't going to work anyway with cameras there and referrals about the place. Fmd, I suppose the line of work you're in sometimes gives an insight, bit I'd flat out rule a line through trying to discern what a bloke is thinking from a facial expression. One bloke's interpretation as a sly smirk or guilt (Hughes yesterday for the Pommy watchers, Bell for the more informed) is another bloke seeing uncertainty.

Point is, the fielder told the batsman he's unsure, and no one blew up either when Bell referred his (again, according to Cook). Everyone off the field reads more onto it than the players.
 
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Redbacks

International Captain
Don't think form would help smith, looks a pub cricketer miles out of his depth against this standard of bowling. Needs years in the shield format before getting another shot.

As poor as North was, he would have been better this series, but given a thumping was inevitable, some experience for Smith is the positive spin to put on the story.
 

morgieb

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Absolutely agree with this. Oz selectors do seem to play favourites. Hauritz seems the latest in a line of blokes whose face/personality doesn't quite fit so is excluded for lesser players.

Can Australia really afford to do it anymore now tho? When the likes of Law, Love & Hodge were (maybe) never given a fair crack for reasons other than cricketing ones the competition was a lot fiercer.
I don't think they can, no.

I think Law and Love could never quite crack down a place when given a shot, do believe that Hodge had personality issues from memory.
 

MW1304

Cricketer Of The Year
Disagree. Yes be positive (and preferably avoid the fielders) but no point throwing it away. Let's get the lead up to 350.
I don't mean be reckless, but if the spinner drops it short and wide make sure you make the most of it.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
this shot has been done to death though. And inevitably, if it's someone from the team the commentator supports it's "oh they didn't know it bounced, very hard to tell coming forward" etc. Yet when it's am opposing player it's "he definitely knew it bounced, how can't he know? He's a cheat etc".

It rank stuff, assuming botham is being accurately reported here (and i don't doubt he is). If cook says hughes told him he wasn't sure on the field and has no problem with it, well it ill-behoves a bloke in the comm box to say otherwise.
awta
 

grecian

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This shot has been done to death though. And inevitably, if it's someone from the team the commentator supports it's "oh they didn't know it bounced, very hard to tell coming forward" etc. Yet when it's am opposing player it's "he definitely knew it bounced, how can't he know? He's a cheat etc".

It rank stuff, assuming Botham is being accurately reported here (an I dot doubt he is). If Cook says Hughes told him he wasn't sure on the field and has no problem with it, well it ill-behoves a bloke in the comm box to say otherwise.
He is standing by it, the mans a **** and an egotist, why let this get in the way of a great series win. Just say you were being hasty in your judgment and we can move on. I also thought Athers was a bit churlish banging on about Ian Bell, not convinced he wouldn't of done any different, as Huss hinted at.
 

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