Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

[Jono]

I just laugh that his big world is some random coffee diner, eating fries.

Seriously though, used to be big fans back in the early 2000s. Sucks balls that they are ****-ups.

 

[sledger]

No CM Punk or John Cena? But otherwise good list. Surprised to see Kane there. Granted he deserved winning the World Heavyweight Championship after so many years, but his reign as champion hasn't been that great.

Oh dear, yes, Cena and Punk both certainly ought to be there, especially Cena, who has been fantastic for the entire year. I've thought that Kane's title run has been quite good actually, maybe it is drying up a bit now that Undertaker is out of the picture, but whilst he was feuding with him I thought it was top dollar.

 

[masterblaster]

Oh dear, yes, Cena and Punk both certainly ought to be there, especially Cena, who has been fantastic for the entire year. I've thought that Kane's title run has actually been quite good actually, maybe it is drying up a bit now that Undertaker is out of the picture, but whilst he was feuding with him I thought it was top dollar.

Kane's feud with Undertaker wasn't too bad, just didn't like all the hocus pocus in the storyline though. His feud with Edge currently is pretty horrible though. I think Edge needs to win the title and set up a feud with Alberto Del Rio.

 

[sledger]

Kane's feud with Undertaker wasn't too bad, just didn't like all the hocus pocus in the storyline though. His feud with Edge currently is pretty horrible though. I think Edge needs to win the title and set up a feud with Alberto Del Rio.

Yeah, I guess you do get quite a lot of these hocus pocus things going on when storylines involve the Undertaker though, particularly when he is involved with Kane somehow, it's maybe one of the downsides to the PG regime...but then again the E have always pulled stupid stuff like this throughout the previous two decades, so I take it as just one of those things.

But yeah, the Edge/Kane thing hasn't really been great, whilst it hasn't been that bad either for mine. Though the whole Paul Bearer involvement thing is beginning to get a bit silly. I know you have to suspend believe a bit for these storylines to work, but are we as the audience really meant to believe that Edge has kept Paul Bearer tied up somewhere for the best part of a month? I guess the laws on kidnapping in the USA are particularly lax...That said, I'll be interesting to see what happens on this week's SD, as it sounds particularly amusing. I imagine Edge will pick up the title at the next PPV though, don't think there's a lot more mileage to get out of Kane, particularly with a lack of challengers.

 

[sledger]

He seemed high on something too. Sad because I always thought Matt was the more level headed one.

Yeah, prior to his release he always seemed like a very calm, thoughtful and altogether reasonable guy, who was very loyal to the company. Though I always thought of Jeff as a bit of a loose cannon, who could come of the rails easily enough, I always thought Matt would have a been more sense or whatever to fall so drastically in such a short space of time, it's quite bizarre really.

 

[masterblaster]

Yeah, I guess you do get quite a lot of these hocus pocus things going on when storylines involve the Undertaker though, particularly when he is involved with Kane somehow, it's maybe one of the downsides to the PG regime...but then again the E have always pulled stupid stuff like this throughout the previous two decades, so I take it as just one of those things.

But yeah, the Edge/Kane thing hasn't really been great, whilst it hasn't been that bad either for mine. Though the whole Paul Bearer involvement thing is beginning to get a bit silly. I know you have to suspend believe a bit for these storylines to work, but are we as the audience really meant to believe that Edge has kept Paul Bearer tied up somewhere for the best part of a month? I guess the laws on kidnapping in the USA are particularly lax...That said, I'll be interesting to see what happens on this week's SD, as it sounds particularly amusing. I imagine Edge will pick up the title at the next PPV though, don't think there's a lot more mileage to get out of Kane, particularly with a lack of challengers.

I guess we were all younger back in those days and ate up all the hocus pocus much like the kids of today do but logical storylines that are realistic are always so much better.

 

[sledger]

I guess we were all younger back in those days and ate up all the hocus pocus much like the kids of today do but logical storylines that are realistic are always so much better.

Haha, I agree, but then again, the whole gimmick of the Undertaker is pretty hocus pocus in itself really, but yet his programs are amongst those I enjoy watching the most

 

[masterblaster]

Yeah, prior to his release he always seemed like a very calm, thoughtful and altogether reasonable guy, who was very loyal to the company. Though I always thought of Jeff as a bit of a loose cannon, who could come of the rails easily enough, I always thought Matt would have a been more sense or whatever to fall so drastically in such a short space of time, it's quite bizarre really.

Yeah although he's always had this tendency. He really milked the Edge and Lita affair those years ago. He cried and moaned to the internet, his fans and all the wrestling websites. Even to this day in interviews he always mentions Lita and can't seem to get over her.

It's sad because I always held him in higher regard than I did Jeff and was always wanting him to get a main event run but it seems that the WWE knew better because I think Matt Hardy would've dropped the ball if they had given him a main event run.

 

[sledger]

Yeah although he's always had this tendency. He really milked the Edge and Lita affair those years ago. He cried and moaned to the internet, his fans and all the wrestling websites. Even to this day in interviews he always mentions Lita and can't seem to get over her.

It's sad because I always held him in higher regard than I did Jeff and was always wanting him to get a main event run but it seems that the WWE knew better because I think Matt Hardy would've dropped the ball if they had given him a main event run.

Mmm, I remember being of a similar opinion to you not all that long ago. Though as you say, it's now apparent why the WWE ever giving him top spot would have been a very bad move. Any idea when his no-comepete clause expires? I assume it's just a matter of time before he appears in TNA and starts shooting on the WWE....just like everyone who leaves the WWE and goes there....yawn.

 

[GIMH]

Chris Jericho
Wade Barrett
John Cena
The Miz
Randy Orton
Alberto Del Rio
Rey Mysterio
John Morrison
Daniel Bryan
Michael Cole

 

[sledger]

Hahaha, yes, I would also like to include Michael Cole on my list.

 

[masterblaster]

Mmm, I remember being of a similar opinion to you not all that long ago. Though as you say, it's now apparent why the WWE ever giving him top spot would have been a very bad move. Any idea when his no-comepete clause expires? I assume it's just a matter of time before he appears in TNA and starts shooting on the WWE....just like everyone who leaves the WWE and goes there....yawn.

I'd imagine it's another 60 days or so. It seems that in the new year we'll definitely have both Hardy's in TNA. That company continues to become an absolute joke. If I was AJ Styles or Samoa Joe, I'd be feeling pretty bad right now.

Samoa Joe still hasn't signed another contract extension with TNA. If I was him, I'd be on the phone to WWE talent relations asking how I could work with them. TNA is a sinking ship that'll continue to sink faster if they keep hiring these WWE rejects and making horrible booking decisions.

 

[sledger]

 

[Manee]

I'm catching up on the last three weeks of WWE - the finish to the Alberto Del Rio and Daniel Bryan match was excellent. I'm unsure whether Bryan deliberately botched the spot to look like he hurt the arm or it worked out that way, but it was a very legitimate finish and I simply love it when Del Rio locks in the arm bar. Watching Miz win the title brought a tear to my eye too.

 

[sledger]

Apparently Batista's daughters *** tape is the hot topic backstage in the WWE at the moment.


I also see that Matt and Jeff have been making fools of themselves on twitter again, am really getting sick of these two. Much as I liked both of them a lot during their tenure with WWE, it really now seems like the company was fortunate to get rid of the pair of them (hindsight is a wonderful thing eh?). With Jeff Hardy so badly off the rails at the moment, one has to think that such an implosion was just around the corner whilst he was with WWE, and such an implosion with loads of kids watching would have been pretty dire. The pair of them need to grow up.

 

[Manee]

Wow, almost finished catching up with missed WWE - simply forgot how awesome The Miz is. Very tempted to buy The Miz's t-shirt on Ebay, but £10.99 is pretty dear, itbt.

 

[masterblaster]

WWE TLC is on this week and it's shaping up to be a great show. Here are my predictions for the event:

WWE Championship Match: The Miz vs Randy Orton - The Miz wins
World Heavyweight Championship Match: Kane vs Edge vs Rey Mysterio vs Alberto Del Rio - Alberto Del Rio wins
John Cena vs Wade Barrett - John Cena wins
Intercontinental Championship Match: Dolph Ziggler vs Kofi Kingston vs Jack Swagger - Dolph Ziggler wins
John Morrison vs Sheamus - Sheamus wins
Natalya and Beth Phoenix vs Laycool - Natalya and Beth Phoenix win

I think this sort of match is a perfect opportunity for Alberto Del Rio to win the World Heavyweight Championship and I think it'll be awesome if he does. The rest of the matches look solid too. Enjoy the show guys.

 

[sledger]

WWE Championship Match: The Miz vs Randy Orton - I think Miz will definitely retain here, will be interesting to see if he can really step up to the plate, as iirc this is the first PPV that he has mainevented in a singles contest?

World Heavyweight Championship Match: Kane vs Edge vs Rey Mysterio vs Alberto Del Rio - Not too sure about this one. I think maybe it is a bit early for Del Rio...but I'm not sure if I'll really favour any of the other guys to come out with the win either. Could go any way, but I'll say Kane to retain.

John Cena vs Wade Barrett - Everything points to a Cena win here, though I note Barrett hasn't had a proper victory at a PPV for a while now, so a third non-victory in a row may be unlikely. That said, I'd back Cena to win here.

Intercontinental Championship Match: Dolph Ziggler vs Kofi Kingston vs Jack Swagger - Should be a really good match this one, not fussed who comes out as the winner as I like all of these guys, and they'll all come out of this looking good. Think this one could go any way as well, but I'll say Swagger to get the victory here.

John Morrison vs Sheamus - I think this one has to be Morrison. Sheamus definitely has had the edge in their feud, and I think it's about time Morrison won one. This would also set up Miz vs Morrison at Royal Rumble nicely, which could really help elevate both guys. Probably looking forward to this match more than any other tbh.

Natalya and Beth Phoenix vs Laycool - Laycool are hilarious, so I hope they win, but I rather suspect it will be Natalya and Beth winning here.

 

[King Pietersen]

Just flicked TNA on, man this is a heap of ****, got nothing on the times when TNA was actually good, back in '06/07. First match I saw was Rob Terry vs RVD. WTF has happened to RVD? He looks well past his prime, wasn't stringing his moves together with any sort of fluidity, like the old RVD. Less said about Terry the better too, he's alright, got a good look but that's about it. Now we've got Jeff Jarrett suddenly pretending he's an MMA fighter, with some ridiculous fake UFC thing going on with the entrance with a cut man and trainers. It's pathetic. I've seen some awful stuff from TNA in the little bits I've seen of it in the last 18 months, but this is ridiculous. Sooner it dies off the better.

Edit: Haha, wow, the 'MMA Exhibition' was hilarious. The 'fan' threw himself at Jarrett, Jarrett pushed him to the floor, picked him up, thai clinched and pretended to throw some knees and punches. Dude goes down, Jarrett stands over him throwing punches, then sinks in a RNC. Didn't even look remotely realistic. The RNC was weak as hell, and the guy was just laying there being choked before eventually tapping, which was followed by Jarrett holding it after the tap, obviously. One of the worst pieces of Professional Wrestling I have ever seen. Making a mockery of himself, TNA and more importantly MMA. They had Lashley signed, any chance of Lashley legitimately taking Jarrett out? That'd be worth watching.

Oh, and Samoa Joe's just re-signed with TNA. I'd have thought guys would be clammering to escape the sinking ship. This bollocks clearly isn't going to be on TV for much longer.

 

[sledger]

Just flicked TNA on, man this is a heap of ****, got nothing on the times when TNA was actually good, back in '06/07. First match I saw was Rob Terry vs RVD. WTF has happened to RVD? He looks well past his prime, wasn't stringing his moves together with any sort of fluidity, like the old RVD. Less said about Terry the better too, he's alright, got a good look but that's about it. Now we've got Jeff Jarrett suddenly pretending he's an MMA fighter, with some ridiculous fake UFC thing going on with the entrance with a cut man and trainers. It's pathetic. I've seen some awful stuff from TNA in the little bits I've seen of it in the last 18 months, but this is ridiculous. Sooner it dies off the better.

Edit: Haha, wow, the 'MMA Exhibition' was hilarious. The 'fan' threw himself at Jarrett, Jarrett pushed him to the floor, picked him up, thai clinched and pretended to throw some knees and punches. Dude goes down, Jarrett stands over him throwing punches, then sinks in a RNC. Didn't even look remotely realistic. The RNC was weak as hell, and the guy was just laying there being choked before eventually tapping, which was followed by Jarrett holding it after the tap, obviously. One of the worst pieces of Professional Wrestling I have ever seen. Making a mockery of himself, TNA and more importantly MMA. They had Lashley signed, any chance of Lashley legitimately taking Jarrett out? That'd be worth watching.

Oh, and Samoa Joe's just re-signed with TNA. I'd have thought guys would be clammering to escape the sinking ship. This bollocks clearly isn't going to be on TV for much longer.

I guess from his point of view it's the easiest and most lucrative gig there is. I gather there was more or less no interest for the WWF, so the chances for him to earn any more than he is currently earning in TNA are more or less non-existant. I guess his only other options are to go back to ROH or go to Japan or Mexico, I daresay those options will still be readily available to him in a few years if he wants to pursue them at a later date, so I suppose for the time being he is just making as much cash as possible.

But yeah, I agree TNA is abysmal, not watched any programming of theirs for a while mind you, with good reason by the sounds of things.