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Ban Test matches in Subcontinent

Ruckus

International Captain
I'd be interested to see some stats on the percentage modes of dismissal in the subcontinent compared to other places in recent times. Anyone know if that's easy to find out using statsguru?
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
Pitches being bowling-friendly only on the 4th and 5th day suddenly doesn't seem too much of an issue anymore. :happy:
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
It's not about the thread starter really, no one too kit seriously. But the amount of criticism (rightly) that the recent subcontinent and UAW test pitches have had, yet the lack of criticism for other pitches outside the subcontinent in recent years, which are also flat, is annoying.

I remember Rodney Hogg talking on SEN how most of Sachin's runs have been on the subcontinent (look at his away average mate) and so they should be looked at with skepticism. Was ridiculous.

It's not a matter of low bounce or high bounce. If a pitch is very flat and the bounce is consistent and predictable, it'll be a bore draw.

Love that S Ramesh's last line of his recent Cricinfo 'numbers game' article has resulting in him having to eat humble pie.
 
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Ruckus

International Captain
It's not about the thread starter really, no one too kit seriously. But the amount of criticism (rightly) that the recent subcontinent and UAW test pitches have had, yet the lack of criticism for other pitches outside the subcontinent in recent years, which are also flat, is annoying.

I remember Rodney Hogg talking on SEN how most of Sachin's runs have been on the subcontinent (look at his away average mate) and so they should be looked at with skepticism. Was ridiculous.

It's not a matter of low bounce or high bounce. If a pitch is very flat and the bounce is consistent and predictable, it'll be a bore draw.

Love that S Ramesh's last line of his recent Cricinfo 'numbers game' article has resulting in him having to eat humble pie.
So you are acknowledging some of the recent subcontinent pitches are too flat? Then shouldn't Tendulkar's runs on the subcontinent in recent times be "looked at with skepticism"?
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
So you are acknowledging some of the recent subcontinent pitches are too flat? Then shouldn't Tendulkar's runs on the subcontinent in recent times be "looked at with skepticism"?
His point is that they shouldn't be looked at with more scepticism than Hussey's runs at home, or Watson's runs at home on pitches just as good for batting.
 

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Apart from obvious improvements to his game, mental state and physical fitness, Sachin's recent run-glut has less to do with flat pitches and more to do with the declining stock of bowlers the world over, IMHO. For a batsman of 35-38 to average as much as he has in the last 3-4 years is pretty anomalous, generally you'd expect the young and ambitious bowlers to be gunning for his wicket and getting the better of him more often than not. But he's been troubled in these years more by another old-timer in Murali than anyone else. Since WC 2007, he has scored heavily in Australia, India, NZ, and SL on the recent tour after failing there in 2008, so can't put it all down to batting in familiar conditions.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
His point is that they shouldn't be looked at with more scepticism than Hussey's runs at home, or Watson's runs at home on pitches just as good for batting.
Yeah if that was true it would an absolutely valid argument, but I think some of the recent subcontinent wickets Jono is referring to are unparalled in their batting friendly conditions. Typically the wickets in Aus aren't nearly as bad as the Gabba one was in the last few days.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
Apart from obvious improvements to his game, mental state and physical fitness, Sachin's recent run-glut has less to do with flat pitches and more to do with the declining stock of bowlers the world over, IMHO. For a batsman of 35-38 to average as much as he has in the last 3-4 years is pretty anomalous, generally you'd expect the young and ambitious bowlers to be gunning for his wicket and getting the better of him more often than not. But he's been troubled in these years more by another old-timer in Murali than anyone else. Since WC 2007, he has scored heavily in Australia, India, NZ, and SL on the recent tour after failing there in 2008, so can't put it all down to batting in familiar conditions.
I think it's a combination of many things tbh. The main things I think being, Sachin's undoubtedly good form, the relatively poor bowling and the flat nature of the wickets.
 

Migara

International Coach
I remember Rodney Hogg talking on SEN how most of Sachin's runs have been on the subcontinent (look at his away average mate) and so they should be looked at with skepticism. Was ridiculous
Rodney Hogg is an overrated piece of nothing compared to SRT
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Yeah if that was true it would an absolutely valid argument, but I think some of the recent subcontinent wickets Jono is referring to are unparalled in their batting friendly conditions. Typically the wickets in Aus aren't nearly as bad as the Gabba one was in the last few days.
They are though. Australia's top batsmen fit the "home track bully" stereotype far easier than a lot of subcontinental bastmen.
 

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