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Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

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masterblaster

International Captain
Haha holy **** what an end to a show. After Orton/Barrett I was thinking to myself "Huh, match is over a bit early isn't it, should still be time left on RAW..." AWESOMEEEEEE! "**** yes!" So gun. Miz era ftw. Counter of the RKO into the SCF was awesome as well. Glad I remembered to catch the show.

edit: Also, love Punk on commentary he is hilarious. When he called whichever Bella it was a 4 I was rolling up.
CM Punk is awesome but no way that the Bella twins are a 4! They are both super attractive, they just lack personality of any kind. Layla is my favourite Diva though.
 
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sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Haha, I kind of miss Cena already actually. It's a good opportunity for a load of other guys now, but I've come to realise how much I like Cena and how he really is the franchise player of the company. As Wrestlemania is creeping up I guess it's unlikely he will be away for long, but RAW will seem kind of funny with him not around.

No way that both he and HHH will be kept of RAW at the same time though, so I think we can expect to see him back shortly. Jericho back to make up the numbers as well I daresay.
 

Majin

International Debutant
Yeah read a report that HHH is due back any day now, which makes me worry somewhat that what happened last night was just a way to get him back on top quickly. I kinda like Trips these days and he's been gone for ages, so I wouldn't mind a run from him, just not now. New era and all that.

Also yes I say it every time this gets mentioned but Layla is the ****. Followed by Maryse because she just looks complete filth.
 
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GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Awwwweeeeeeeeesome....I came to play, there's a price to pay, time for you to get down on your knees
 

Majin

International Debutant
Christ I forgot about that, meant to comment on it last night, properly cracked me up that did. Best part of the night.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
MITB being cashed in is such a cool concept.

Literally started becoming used when I stopped watching wrestling (Edge using it back in 06 or something I think).

Shattering. I love the idea so much, such good shock booking.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I'm not going to complain about them using the MITB shock cash in on this occasion, because it was awesome :ph34r: But I think they should start using them as part of a storyline a bit more. Like the way RVD used it to book his title match at ECW one night stand in 07. Though, I guess from a realistic point of view, I can see why most wrestlers would cash it in at the opportune moment, is just good common sense and so quite realistic.
 

Majin

International Debutant
Bollocks, Nexus storyline was one of the best and most well done wrestling angles for years, Michaels/Taker 2 at wrestlemania was the best match in wrestling history, WWE's commitment to pushing new and young talent to the top of the company is keeping things fresh and ushering in a new era. If you want to see how a wrestling company goes downhill watch TNA.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
WWE has gone downhill ever since they started the whole PG crap.
That's rubbish. WWE has been better than they have been in a long time. Cena and Nexus, creating new stars like Daniel Bryan, Alberto Del Rio and Sheamus, realistic angles and storylines. I think WWE has been fantastic as of late.

The misconception that many fans have is that the rating of the show somehow affects the quality. This is absolutely false. The reason why WWE was so successful during the Attitude era was due to outstanding talent and excellent writing.

TNA is not rated PG, but their show is absolutely dreadful. They've got all the talent in the world, but excessive swearing, bleeding, ***ual content for the sake of having ***ual content will never help especially if the writing is poor.

If you want to see an example of a promotion that's not PG but a complete disaster, you have to look at TNA. If being more adult was the key to success then why is TNA pulling terrible ratings? Talented stars and good writing are more important to promotions than their television rating.
 

Blaze 18

Banned
It is not just the storylines - the matches themselves are boring. A John Cena match is so freaking predictable : he starts off well, gets beaten up, does a five knuckle shuffle, attitude adjustment, pinfall.

We should not be comparing the WWE with TNA; the former has always been a couple of classes above. But, the PG rating has undeniably made a difference to the show : the verbal battles, which used to be the life and soul of the successful attitude era, are almost non-existent; the diva matches are far less interesting. Heck, even names of moves/superstars have had to be changed : FU to attitude adjustment, legend killer to viper, stfu to stf.

Just out of curiosity, how long have you guys been watching WWE ? If you think the Nexus storyline is great, I can only imagine that you have seen little, if anything, of the WWF attitude era.
 
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masterblaster

International Captain
It is not just the storylines - the matches themselves are boring. A John Cena match is so freaking predictable : he starts off well, gets beaten up, does a five knuckle shuffle, attitude adjustment, pinfall.

We should not be comparing the WWE with TNA; the former has always been a couple of classes above. But, the PG rating has undeniably made a difference to the show : the verbal battles, which used to be the life and soul of the successful attitude era, are almost non-existent; the diva matches are far less interesting. Heck, even names of moves/superstars have had to be changed : FU to attitude adjustment, legend killer to viper, stfu to stf.

Just out of curiosity, how long have you guys been watching WWE ? If you think the Nexus storyline is great, I can only imagine that you have seen little, if anything, of the WWF attitude era.
Most of the guys on this thread are very smart, intelligent and rational pro wrestling fans. In fact, I can say that this thread is one of the best, most well rounded and intelligent wrestling discussion threads on the entire internet.

Most of us have been fans of pro wrestling (not just WWE) since the early 90's and yes most of us were around during the height of the Attitude Era. Just go back on the several hundred pages of this thread and you'll get a feel of what sort of discussion takes place.

We all appreciate a good promo, we all appreciate solid, well constructed wrestling matches and yes we all appreciate John Cena as well because he is very talented! The Nexus storyline to quote Chris Jericho has been a stroke of genius, because never before in the history of pro wrestling have 7 green guys been pushed so fast and so hard to the main event yet have been so believable in their spot.

Think about the Nexus storyline in the sense that you didn't know a single one of these people this time last year. You didn't know Wade Barrett, you didn't know Justin Gabriel or David Otunga. Most people didn't even know Daniel Bryan unless you followed ROH and the Independent Wrestling scene like a lot of the people here do.

Now you know all of them. Wade Barrett is a certified superstar and the other guys are pretty recognisable too. Sheamus and Drew McIntyre have come leaps and bounds and Alberto Del Rio is a future World Heavyweight Champion. For all the criticism that internet fans tend to give WWE, I think they have been doing a fantastic job.

They don't have to go to the lengths they did with the Attitude Era, as it's been done before. Times change, viewing tastes change. The classy, family friendly way the WWE is presenting their programming is fantastic. The way they are also putting the sport back into sports entertainment with the likes of Daniel Bryan, Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler is fantastic too and only makes the product stronger.

Are they doing everything perfectly? Most likely not. Can they improve? Absolutely they can improve. It's important to note though that the WWE are in a transition period with most of their older stars now retiring or taking breaks. The young talent they currently have is absolutely amazing and in a few years, WWE will be able to enjoy some of the rewards for pushing these younger stars.
 
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