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*Official* New Zealand in India 2010

Blaze 18

Blaze 18

Banned
M0rphin3 said:
There's no need of kumble because already India lack competition - almost all the greats from their respective teams have retired and India still have Sach, Dravid, VVS. Add an inform Zaheer and you have a gun team IMO.
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That is a very good point. It certainly is not MS Dhoni's fault that greats from other sides have retired, but it has allowed India to pull ahead of the pack. Once India's own greats retire they will be pulled back down with the rest. That will be his true test as captain.
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
If India had Kumble we wouldn't have gotten within 10 minutes of losing a home test series to South Africa this year in my view.

Kumble wouldn't have let Parnell and Morkel but for as long as they did.
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
centurymaker said:
Told you that sachin wouldn't score much. That 50th 100 is playing on his mind.
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Shouldn't you wait until he gets out before posting this? Saw this post and thought he was out for a second, then looked back at my screen and see him still there :dry:
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Yeah it's friggin day 2 for Christ's sake. India should aim to bat once, put on as many runs as possible, and then have 2 days to bowl NZ out. Not try and score at a run rate of 4.5 and lose wickets :dry:
 
straw man

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Well, this is not a lot of fun. I think after everything went wrong yesterday NZ just needed a bit of luck early on with the ball today, particularly to get rid of Sehwag. Instead the balls they bowled that managed to threaten the batsman didn't get wickets, they dropped a catch and were unlucky with an umpiring decision.

Ugh
 
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And it'll be this performance that the NZ media remember from this series - not our tremendous showings against the best team in the world in the first two games.
 
M0rphin3

M0rphin3

International Debutant
Jono said:
Yeah it's friggin day 2 for Christ's sake. India should aim to bat once, put on as many runs as possible, and then have 2 days to bowl NZ out. Not try and score at a run rate of 4.5 and lose wickets :dry:
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Sehwag killing test cricket it seems :dry:
 
Zinzan

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Lads, just back from a wkd in the Gold Coast with no internet access. Just caught up on NZ's diabolical batting scorecard, ahhhhhhhh! Was it a minefield yesterday or something. It certainly looks like a great batting track from what I've seen of Dravid & Sachin in the last 30 mins.
 
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Jono said:
Sehwag was gunning it pretty hard from 2003-04, and Dravid was the best test batsman in the word from 2002-2005.

Ganguly, Kumble and Dravid also had Kumble as a bowler! Dhoni has never had him.
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G.I.Joe said:
IMO, the most telling difference is that Dhoni is the only one who doesn't have Kumble bowling for him. That is such a massive disadvantage.

Ganguly had both Kumble and Srinath.
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Jono said:
If India had Kumble we wouldn't have gotten within 10 minutes of losing a home test series to South Africa this year in my view.

Kumble wouldn't have let Parnell and Morkel but for as long as they did.
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AWTA so much. Kumble was such a key match-winner for us.

Jono said:
Yeah it's friggin day 2 for Christ's sake. India should aim to bat once, put on as many runs as possible, and then have 2 days to bowl NZ out. Not try and score at a run rate of 4.5 and lose wickets :dry:
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Absolutely. The aim should be to get them in again when the track is a bit worn, if that means batting at 3 RPO, so be it. We have plenty of time.

It was a different case in the first Test mind, when India should have looked to really pile on the runs when Laxman and Tendulkar were together in the first session of day 2. The cautious batting after Sehwag's dismissal really backfired in that match and nearly resulted in an embarrassing loss.
 
Sanz

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Shri said:
Sehwag and Sachin did not have such an awesome purple patch when Ganguly/Kumble/Dravid were captains.
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Blaze 18 said:
Sourav Ganguly had siginificantly weaker opening batsmen and far worse fast bowling resources than MS Dhoni. The former did have a Rahul Dravid at his peak, but he also had to make do with a Sachin Tendulkar who, at that time, was a mere shadow of his former self. Compare that to MS Dhoni who has Virender Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar and VVS Laxman all in prime form.
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Tendulkar averaged 63 under Ganguly, his best under all the captains he has played. Ganguly had more resources compared to Dhoni, esp at home.
 
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