*Official* Sri Lanka in Australia 2010

[vic_orthdox]

Agree with this to an extent, but I definitely dont think ODIs are Johnson's best format. Same with Siddle. Would rather see Tait and McKay in for those two. I think Tait is injured - don't know why McKay isn't getting a game.

Also - James Hopes would have been very very handy in this match.

Really don't see what Hopes would have provided that Hastings doesn't. Similar bowlers, just that one is 6'4, the other skiddy.

 

[Prince EWS]

Agree with this to an extent, but I definitely dont think ODIs are Johnson's best format. Same with Siddle. Would rather see Tait and McKay in for those two. I think Tait is injured - don't know why McKay isn't getting a game.

Also - James Hopes would have been very very handy in this match.

Yeah, Johnson and especially Siddle should be Test specialists. I've been saying it all day, since before the match started even. Bollinger, Tait and Harris are definitely Australia's best three fast bowling options for ODIs and I don't care if that means we have a rabbit at ten. Over-working our Test bowlers in ODIs when they aren't even particularly good at them makes no real sense as it's only likely to injury them and/or drop their confidence and form.

 

[Prince EWS]

Really don't see what Hopes would have provided that Hastings doesn't. Similar bowlers, just that one is 6'4, the other skiddy.

Yeah they offer extremely similar things with the ball but Hopes is much more likely to play a substantial innings. Hastings is perhaps the better bet to come in at 8 and score quickly from the get-go though so I can see why they picked him.

 

[Matt79]

True, Hastings did pretty well, and that's who he would have replaced. I guess it's unfair given Smith was injured, but i was thinking Hopes would have done better than Smith in both disciplines.

 

[Ruckus]

Just don't get this argument based on what, 2/3 matches? It's the nature of how he bowls, nothing more, nothing less. How about the match he won for Australia in 08/09 with just 10 runs to spare against SA? How about the fact that he's had a significant amount of pressure on him as a very experience leader of a bowling attack when he blew SA out of the park in SA? Or does that not count? Gets no credit for the way in which he comeback under what was some pretty intense pressure after the tosh he served up in the first 2 ashes tests?

In terms of ODI's, he's been rather average bar a handful of games for the past 12 months or more, it's hardly anything different from the norm.

I may be slightly biased in my view towards Johnners, but it's quite frustrating to see how suddenly we don't win a match or 2 in which he's bowled poorly, and it's because he can't handle pressure.

I'm not saying he can or can't handle pressure. I'm just saying that when he is inconsistent it becomes extremely noticable. Thats my problem with Johnson. As you pointed out he has had some great match winning performances. But at the same time I think it is fair to say he has contributed to losses as well. The concern, then, is when you have a match requiring a good finish, and the bad Johnson turns up. It really puts the team in strife.

 

[Spark]

What frustrated me tonight was the pace bowlers complete incapability to bowl an over of consistent deliveries on the stumps. The typical over had the following pattern:

Ball 1. Slower delivery
Ball 2. Wide outside off
Ball 3. Short Ball
Ball 4. Short slower delivery
Ball 5. Slower delivery
Ball 6. Wide
Ball 7. Short Ball

In the past the one guy who did so well at knocking over the tail was Brett Lee. He always bowled straight and fast. He was replaced well by Ryan Harris who doesn't try anything too fancy. The bowlers selected tonight were simply incapable of bowling to a simple plan, and I'm afraid the best backup bowler in McKay is of the similar mould in that he will try 6 different deliveries an over. Mitch Starc I don't even want to mention, his accuracy is worse than Johnson.

Harris is going to prove crucial to our World Cup defence I feel. We will not win without an effective close out bowler. Not many other names could fill that void either, Nannes is not that style, Harwood is too old, Stuart Clarke is too slow, Geeves is always injured, the only roughie I can throw into the ring is Nathan Rimmington. I hope it doesn't come to that though.

forgotten a ball there

 

[Jono]

For a guy as tanked up as Hastings he's pretty damn slow as a bowler.

 

[Noble One]

forgotten a ball there

k?

 

[Ruckus]

I'm getting sick of the media excited by Hussey making runs in One Day Cricket... He always does, I can't believe how runs in ODI is seen as more important than first class runs for Test Cricket..

Yeh I agree, but unfortunately thats the way it is. Its not just the media. Ponting recently iimplied he will be looking at Hussey's ODI form as a guage of his situation for the Ashes. Its ridiculous.

 

[Prince EWS]

For a guy as tanked up as Hastings he's pretty damn slow as a bowler.

Haha yeah, imagine what he'd bowl like if he was built like Agarkar.
He bats like you'd imagine he would by looking at him though.

 

[Noble One]

For a guy as tanked up as Hastings he's pretty damn slow as a bowler.

His arm is even worse. Some of his throws from the deep had a major arc on them.

 

[Athlai]

Lasssssiiiiittttthhhhhh

 

[NUFAN]

The funniest part is who his likely replacement will be if they drop him - someone who's had one decent First Class season after six poor to medicore ones and then spent a year out injured, but has done okay in a few ODIs.

It's going to be a travesty if Ferguson debuts ahead of KHAWAJA.

What frustrated me tonight was the pace bowlers complete incapability to bowl an over of consistent deliveries on the stumps. The typical over had the following pattern:

Ball 1. Slower delivery
Ball 2. Wide outside off
Ball 3. Short Ball
Ball 4. Short slower delivery
Ball 5. Slower delivery
Ball 6. Wide
Ball 7. Short Ball

In the past the one guy who did so well at knocking over the tail was Brett Lee. He always bowled straight and fast. He was replaced well by Ryan Harris who doesn't try anything too fancy. The bowlers selected tonight were simply incapable of bowling to a simple plan, and I'm afraid the best backup bowler in McKay is of the similar mould in that he will try 6 different deliveries an over. Mitch Starc I don't even want to mention, his accuracy is worse than Johnson.

Harris is going to prove crucial to our World Cup defence I feel. We will not win without an effective close out bowler. Not many other names could fill that void either, Nannes is not that style, Harwood is too old, Stuart Clarke is too slow, Geeves is always injured, the only roughie I can throw into the ring is Nathan Rimmington. I hope it doesn't come to that though.

Bingo, I agree exactly with this.

Yeah they offer extremely similar things with the ball but Hopes is much more likely to play a substantial innings. Hastings is perhaps the better bet to come in at 8 and score quickly from the get-go though so I can see why they picked him.

I think the selectors have decided to rest Hopes because they pretty much know what they get with him and these 3 ODIs are the last ODI's Australia will play before we need to finalize our World Cup Squad (I read this in the SMH, so not 100% certain). So giving John Wayne a chance was certainly worth a try.

The only positive from this game is that Haddin looked to have batted well (I was only listening on the radio during his knock) and Doherty's great debut.

I love Siddle, but please don't pick him in ODI's!

 

[Spark]

k?

2 wides = 8 ball over

 

[howardj]

FMD - any chance of our captain playing.

Thought it was piss poor that he bailed from India after we got white washed in the Tests.

And don't play the grandma card.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Try not being objectionable all the time, kay?

So if the boot was on the other foot leading into an ashes campaign and England had just lost a game they had all but won to make it 9 defeats in a row in all competitions then you Aussies wouldn't be doing the same?

Don't talk codswallop.

Great performance by Sri Lanka but Australia yet again have shown a fragility that keeps undermining them and you wonder how they can turn it round as losing becomes a habit and at the moment they have totally lost the know how to win cricket matches and being an England fan i am enjoying that.

Sorry if it pisses on your chips.

 

[andyc]

FMD - any chance of our captain playing.

Thought it was piss poor that he bailed from India after we got white washed in the Tests.

And don't play the grandma card.

...

Is this serious? It was his grandmother's funeral, FFS...

 

[howardj]

Everyone's got two

 

[Ruckus]

FMD - any chance of our captain playing.

Thought it was piss poor that he bailed from India after we got white washed in the Tests.

And don't play the grandma card.

Yeh I have to admit the grandma card is used far too often these days.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

FMD - any chance of our captain playing.

Thought it was piss poor that he bailed from India after we got white washed in the Tests.

And don't play the grandma card.

That is harsh.

If players aren't allowed time off to go to a family funeral then it is a sad state of affairs.

Would you go to work and miss a family funeral?