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*Official* English Football Season 2010-11

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Based on what?

At least Davies is fit enough to play regularly.
Owen is fit right now & hasn't had any injury problems this season.

Plus its Michael Owen - the proven international goal-scorer. Of course he is passed his peak, but i'd always pick him (especially with certain key players out like Defoe, Zamora) over a no pace, journeyman premiership striker. At this reate Dave Kiston may fancy his chances by of getting a call-up, its a bad selection by Sir Capello.


roseboy said:
Davies been one of the best target men in England for years now. Justified selection. SWP though? Clearly Downing would have been better.


This is the problem. ENG need to get away from using target-men. Although Davies is not internatioanl qualiy, the problem is not players Davies & Crouch or the partnership they would have with with Rooney, the problem is what it does to the team. For yearss in big matches England would just start "hoofing it up to the big man", when under pressure. The whole team seem to lack the control to hold onto possession and wait until a good pass is available. If they can't immediately find a good pass, they just boot it up. Heskey had a decent World Cup & WCQs doing that role, but the team ended up just playing poor long balls to him in the WC. They need to learn to control possession more and be more patient on the ball.

Post world cup Capello has rightly moved on from that tactic with the nice pacy partnership of Rooney/Defoe up front. Long term looking ahead to EURO 2012, its the either the Rooney/Defoe partnership or Rooney up front on his own flanked by Johnson & Walcott. The only big man/target man that should be in the team these days is Zamora & he should just be a last resort sub-option in a hypotetical big match.

Plus of course Davies is 33 & againts a mediocre opposition lke Montenegro, such a stop gap options over Owen or the youth of Caroll is poor choice.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
You never began to talk about his eligibility for England, but yet you proclaimed how wonderful it would be if he were English? I assume you therefore wish he was English for something other than footballing reasons.

And no, I imagine Giggs would have been very useful for England. I'm also very upset that Zidane, Rivaldo and Oliver Khan couldn't play for England too. Not to mention Puskas, who would definitely be a part of my England all time XI if he had played for them I am sure.
As i said, only on CW with specific posters like yourself, would this even be a debate.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
As i said, only on CW with specific posters like yourself, would this even be a debate.
But yet you still demonstrate a total inability to explain your original point. I'm not entirely sure how even with your prodigal detective skills you've worked out that I post specifically on Cricketweb either, but I'll let that slide, as I doubt your answer to that would be anymore convincing than what you've said with regards to why it would be great for a load of non-English players to play for England.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
But yet you still demonstrate a total inability to explain your original point. I'm not entirely sure how even with your prodigal detective skills you've worked out that I post specifically on Cricketweb either, but I'll let that slide, as I doubt your answer to that would be anymore convincing than what you've said with regards to why it would be great for a load of non-English players to play for England.
My original point/wish that Bale was ENG is very straigforward point that outside of the CW bubble with posters such as yourself, wouldn't need explaining.

Tottenham 3 Blackburn 1: Fabio Capello, you must wish Gareth Bale was English | Mail Online

It?s a Shame Spurs Star Gareth Cannot Bale Out England this Summer

Jamie Redknapp's Weekend Watch: Tottenham's Gareth Bale finally showing his true colours | Mail Online

Plus i believe their is lamebook gorup called "I Wish Gareth Bale Was English, he's wasted being Welsh".

So basically if you dont understand where myself, those journalist, Harry Redkanpp & other ENG fans are coming from. I cannot help you.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
My original point/wish that Bale was ENG is very straigforward point that outside of the CW bubble with posters such as yourself, wouldn't need explaining.

Tottenham 3 Blackburn 1: Fabio Capello, you must wish Gareth Bale was English | Mail Online

It?s a Shame Spurs Star Gareth Cannot Bale Out England this Summer

Jamie Redknapp's Weekend Watch: Tottenham's Gareth Bale finally showing his true colours | Mail Online

Plus i believe their is lamebook gorup called "I Wish Gareth Bale Was English, he's wasted being Welsh".

So basically if you dont understand where myself, those journalist, Harry Redkanpp & other ENG fans are coming from. I cannot help you.
Well since I'm such a moron, why don't you actually explain yourself, rather than serving up the same old drivel. I don't care how many articles there are saying how people wish he was English. I could probably find several articles proclaiming how wonderful it would have been if Pele was English. The bottom line of my point, is that Bale is not English, and he is no more English than someone from Viet Nam or Peru, and henceforth crying about him not being English is a lost cause. But of course you've totally ignored this like you usually do when you encounter a question you can't answer, an approach you will doubtless adopt again when replying to this post. Come down to my Uni and enter the mooting competition, I'd love a spot of flat track bullying to warm myself up for the coming year.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
My original point/wish that Bale was ENG is very straigforward point that outside of the CW bubble with posters such as yourself, wouldn't need explaining.

Tottenham 3 Blackburn 1: Fabio Capello, you must wish Gareth Bale was English | Mail Online

It?s a Shame Spurs Star Gareth Cannot Bale Out England this Summer

Jamie Redknapp's Weekend Watch: Tottenham's Gareth Bale finally showing his true colours | Mail Online

Plus i believe their is lamebook gorup called "I Wish Gareth Bale Was English, he's wasted being Welsh".

So basically if you dont understand where myself, those journalist, Harry Redkanpp & other ENG fans are coming from. I cannot help you.
It's no different to sledger's facetious point about how he wishes David Villa was English.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Well since I'm such a moron, why don't you actually explain yourself, rather than serving up the same old drivel. I don't care how many articles there are saying how people wish he was English. I could probably find several articles proclaiming how wonderful it would have been if Pele was English. The bottom line of my point, is that Bale is not English, and he is no more English than someone from Viet Nam or Peru, and henceforth crying about him not being English is a lost cause. But of course you've totally ignored this like you usually do when you encounter a question you can't answer, an approach you will doubtless adopt again when replying to this post. Come down to my Uni and enter the mooting competition, I'd love a spot of flat track bullying to warm myself up for the coming year.
Please dont call yourself a moron.

I dont ever ignore questions from anyone. I am one of the pioneers of endless mutli-quoting in CW history, which would clearly suggest i never back down from an argument.

Given the obvious connection Wales and England has. Wishing a welch player could play for ENG is obviously different from wishing a Spanish, Brazilian etc could play for us. Which again would be clearly understood outside the CW bubble with specific posters..
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Please dont call yourself a moron.

I dont ever ignore questions from anyone. I am one of the pioneers of endless mutli-quoting in CW history, which would clearly suggest i never back down from an argument.

Given the obvious connection Wales and England has. Wishing a welch player could play for ENG is obviously different from wishing a Spanish, Brazilian etc could play for us. Which again would be clearly understood outside the CW bubble with specific posters..
Yes, your inability to accept defeat is well documented.

The obvious connections? Do explain, I'm not sure what these are exactly.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Since you're such a fan of links, here's one which actually makes a lot of sense.

BBC - Phil McNulty: Capello rewards Davies toil
I disagree with my favourite sports journalist Mr.McNulty for once, for reasons i already stated. ENG need to forgot about using target-men.

England can certainly break down Montenegro of all teams with quick moving players in the box. I bet you given the likelihood that Rooney & Bent will start, Capello will bring on Crouch in a hypotetical sub scenario before Davies.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Yes, your inability to accept defeat is well documented.
How would you know. You couldn't last one paragraph in robust cricketchat debate, this is why you have retreated to hiding away in off-topic all these years.

The obvious connections? Do explain, I'm not sure what these are exactly.
Can't help you with this one. Some things should have been thought since school or maybe in your usual mooting competition preparation classes @ Uni.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Apparently Liverpool are sold to the Boston Red Sox's owners. Anyone have any good info on them and whether that's a good move?
 

El Nino

School Boy/Girl Captain
Apparently Liverpool are sold to the Boston Red Sox's owners. Anyone have any good info on them and whether that's a good move?
No one really knows right now too much on them right now, seen some positive quotes how they conduct them selves in charge of the red sox.

He's a serious owner. He's very interested in winning and maxamizing his investment, realizing that the two go hand in hand. He's occasionally sloppy with his communication tactics, but he also spends a lot of money and brings in good talent. Overall I have been impressed with this ownership group. They took on the challenge of winning a championship for a team that had not won for 86 seasons prior and won two championships in a 4 year period.

Some pretty positive things like that, then on the other hand there's, how different will it really be? The debt cleared but same old?

Can't get any worse than it is now.
 

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