The Aamer Situation

[Top_Cat]

Also all this talk about him singing like a canary. Why isn't he confessing already.

Fairly obvious, really; there are people who'd rather see him dead than talk to Police.

 

[Faisal1985]

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[Hurricane]

Fairly obvious, really; there are people who'd rather see him dead than talk to Police.

I guess the penny isn't dropping for me - why would he confess to an ICC inquiry but not the police. If he gets other people into trouble at an ICC inquiry can't the police take action at that stage. And if they do isn't he still in mortal danger. Not trying to debate with you - just searching for an explanation.

 

[fredfertang]

I guess the penny isn't dropping for me - why would he confess to an ICC inquiry but not the police. If he gets other people into trouble at an ICC inquiry can't the police take action at that stage. And if they do isn't he still in mortal danger. Not trying to debate with you - just searching for an explanation.

I would think he has a legal team who are trying to cut a deal for him - I can't imagine he'll start talking until he knows what to expect in return

 

[Top_Cat]

I guess the penny isn't dropping for me - why would he confess to an ICC inquiry but not the police. If he gets other people into trouble at an ICC inquiry can't the police take action at that stage. And if they do isn't he still in mortal danger. Not trying to debate with you - just searching for an explanation.

Yeah, what fred said. It's not a fluid process, nor is it completely obvious what to do and when. There's push, pull and good old fashioned changes of heart.

Guessing, of course, all this going on behind closed doors.

 

[social]

Cant believe that so many people are advocating that Amir's career should basically be ended

He is an 18 year old kid from an impoverished background with virtually no formal education that has had the misfortune of being "mentored" by the likes of Asif

I would advocate a suspension of 2 years on the basis it was only spot fixing for which he is ultimately found guilty

 

[bagapath]

He is an 18 year old kid from an impoverished background with virtually no formal education that has had the misfortune of being "mentored" by the likes of Asif

What did the world achieve by forgiving Mohammad Asif's earlier transgressions? If Aamer is let off the hook he will create other monsters like him in future. Ban him for life. There will be other kids in Pakistan who could bowl as well as aamer without ever taking illegal money to cheat on the ground.

 

[GotSpin]

Cant believe that so many people are advocating that Amir's career should basically be ended

He is an 18 year old kid from an impoverished background with virtually no formal education that has had the misfortune of being "mentored" by the likes of Asif

I would advocate a suspension of 2 years on the basis it was only spot fixing for which he is ultimately found guilty

lol what. If he can't be banned for life because he's an 18 year old kid then you he's too young to play international cricket then

 

[Top_Cat]

What did the world achieve by forgiving Mohammad Asif's earlier transgressions? If Aamer is let off the hook he will create other monsters like him in future. Ban him for life. There will be other kids in Pakistan who could bowl as well as aamer without ever taking illegal money to cheat on the ground.

haha, 'monsters'? Jesus.

Completely agree with Social.

 

[Xuhaib]

Aamer should not spill any beans or he will be putting his and more importantly his family's life in danger.

Just take the life ban and get back to life he is still 18 so there is plenty of time to take an alternative career.I think Pakistan cricket establishment deserves this had they cleaned up the mess a decade back they would not have lost once in a decade talent like Aamer.

 

[Uppercut]

Cant believe that so many people are advocating that Amir's career should basically be ended

He is an 18 year old kid from an impoverished background with virtually no formal education that has had the misfortune of being "mentored" by the likes of Asif

I would advocate a suspension of 2 years on the basis it was only spot fixing for which he is ultimately found guilty

I don't think he really deserves a life ban, but I definitely think a life ban would be best for cricket.

 

[bagapath]

haha, 'monsters'? Jesus.

Completely agree with Social.

ha ha. I agree "monsters" was a bit over the top. but asif has been a disgrace and a bad role model for pakistanis. enough with this forgive and forget policy. dont want to see more and more assortment of offenders donning the national team's uniform and continue with corruption of the game of cricket.

ameer is old enough to play for pakistan. old enough to open a bank account, old enough to pretend as though his foot slipped after he bowled that no ball. so, he is old enough to get a life ban. bye-bye ameer.

 

[DingDong]

reading this thread i have softened my stance of a life ban on aamir. the kid had poor role models around him and came from a poor family. 2 is years is enough imo.

 

[Teja.]

reading this thread i have softened my stance of a life ban on aamir. the kid had poor role models around him and came from a poor family. 2 is years is enough imo.

This man speaks the truth. If it's only spot-fixing he's guilty of, 2 years max IMO.

 

[GotSpin]

Spot Fixing = Match fixing

 

[Scaly piscine]

Pleaded not guilty, hasn't spilled the beans on the others. So life ban it is. Anyone who thinks 2 years is an appropriate punishment and deterrent for trying to destroy cricket and national pride needs to wake up.

 

[Shri]

Doesn't matter what word comes before the word 'fixing', its still ****.

 

[social]

lol what. If he can't be banned for life because he's an 18 year old kid then you he's too young to play international cricket then

An incredibly mindless argument

He bowled a no ball and was supposedly paid for it

Big ****ing deal!!!!!!

His home is in a Taliban stronghold and without cricket he'd be a dead man walking

No money

No education

No future

Read Geoff Lawson's (former Pakistani coach) article where he claims that he was forced to select a player due to a kidnapping threat before you jump to conclusions

 

[PhoenixFire]

Expected Social to take completely the opposite stance, but I totally agree with him.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Yeah, let's legalise fixing in any country that happens to be overrun by the Taliban. Brilliant.