*Official* Pakistan in England 2010

[Faisal1985]

Isnt it the holy month?

It is...that's why the hungry part....

 

[Shri]

It is...that's why the hungry part....

I thought you were hungry for a Pakistan victory. Tummy before every other thing. Join the club.

 

[Faisal1985]

Isnt it the holy month?

Yes but honestly these are some long fastings in Canada. The sunset is at 8....and the sun rise at approx 4...Cricket is keeping me busy though.

Its not the food that bothers me much but the water...that's a killer....played a club T20 on last saturday while fasting...that was something..

 

[Faisal1985]

I thought you were hungry for a Pakistan victory. Tummy before every other thing. Join the club.

That too..it served both purposes..lets put it this way i would go for an extra couple of days with fasting if Pak level the series...

 

[kingkallis]

Kamran has taken 8 catches in the game so far...

 

[Uppercut]

Think we needed another 80 runs to make it competitive, this pitch is not like the ones that Pak got out for under 100. England have really batted poorly over two innings, credit to the oppo, they've taking advantage, but there's been precious few genuine wicket-taking deliveries.

I'd say the first innings collapse was more down to good bowling than bad batting. The one today was just crap batting.

 

[Jono]

Thoughts on Trott's innings?

 

[kingkallis]

Sangakkara - 187, 170, 132, 130, 122*, 119, 100*, 92, 85, 57*, 56*, 52, 44, 40, 38, 37, 30*, 28, 9, 5*, 4, 3, 0*
1500 @ 93.75

Jayawardene - 274, 175, 142, 140, 137, 113*, 95, 74, 67, 67, 66, 65, 50, 41, 39, 36, 36, 34, 27, 23, 19, 14, 7, 4, 4, 1*, 1, 0*
1751 @ 70

Jeez, they are good players!

Roads of sub-continent [ Read Sri Lanka here ] helps as well...

 

[kingkallis]

****ing hell. Pietersen is really starting to bug me now. Looks uncharacteristically tentative at the crease, never looks settled at the crease and then keeps chucking his wicket away playing defensive shots to decent, but not magnificent deliveries. Don't get me wrong, that was a good delivery from Ajmal, it did turn; but it wasn't a jaffer. It was an off-spinner that actually turned. He should have played it better. When is he finally going to score another century?

Ashes

 

[G.I.Joe]

Jeez, they are good players!

Roads of sub-continent [ Read Sri Lanka here ] helps as well...

Nah, don't you know, there's a new paradigm. They're still superior batsmen if the roads are the majority of pitches those batsmen play on. Courtesy the Seam vs Spin thread

 

[Jacknife]

Thoughts on Trott's innings?

Would have been decent enough in the context of the game if he had gone on and at the very least made say 80 (250) ,but not getting to 36 out of 130 then playing at a very wide ball and hitting it straight to the fielder, that just didn't make sense. I think in Trotts' mind he wanted to be the batsman that batted most of the innings and wanted the other batsman to bat around him playing their shots.

 

[aussie]

We have seen this episode with Cook before. Struggled last summer in the Ashes, entered the SA tour with his place under pressure & scored a career saving hundred.

Same thing has happened now again. Not sure what to make of this, but hopefully for ENGs sake he can actually bring some consistency to his bowling when facing good attacks. Since watching him batting since Ashes 06/07 has been woefully frustrating.

 

[AaronK]

Kamran has taken 8 catches in the game so far...

I have been busy.. i haven't watched the game yet.. so i don't know how he did it..

but after i heard that in cricinfo.. I went outside to look for flying cows and even flying pigs.. here is a guy who easily dropped dolly catches for years.. now he is holding on to 8 catches in this match.. Thanx to zoni Haider.. finally, a decent competation that could strighten him up..

 

[tooextracool]

Jeez, they are good players!

Roads of sub-continent [ Read Sri Lanka here ] helps as well...

That maybe the case but the point is that our players dont go onto those roads in the subcontinent and score the same kinds of runs.

 

[Fusion]

I have been busy.. i haven't watched the game yet.. so i don't know how he did it..

but after i heard that in cricinfo.. I went outside to look for flying cows and even flying pigs.. here is a guy who easily dropped dolly catches for years.. now he is holding on to 8 catches in this match.. Thanx to zoni Haider.. finally, a decent competation that could strighten him up..

Yup, competition does wonders for one's performance.

 

[tombarlow123]

Well **** me, I might as well not bother watching tomorrow,seen as it's a done deal,after everything we've seen this series how is it a phony confidence,infact I'm not confident, never said I was, just said a few wickets would make it interesting which it would.I'm hopeful just like all England fans,what's it to you if I had some confidence.

Hehehe...was having one of my post-collapse spaz attacks. Apologies.

But still, despite anyone's confidence in England's bowling attack, its going to take a miracle spell from one of the bowlers (obviously gonna have to be Swann, isn't it) for us to win this. A weaker Pakistan line-up has managed to chase a more challenging total in worse conditions at a more dangerous track...and recently...

 

[BoyBrumby]

We're ****ed, let's be honest.

Hope Broad can biff a few tomorrow & maybe stretch it to a 170 lead, but less than confident. Kudos to Cook for a doughty knock under pressure (personally think he'd have been given Lords to prove himself anyway, but his place was clearly under consideration at least), but the middle order disgraced itself again. Colly and Trott both got out to penisy shots and, even allowing for Morgan not picked the throwsra, all the kings horses and all the kings men could marched through the gap he was bowled through.

 

[Jacknife]

Hehehe...was having one of my post-collapse spaz attacks. Apologies.

But still, despite anyone's confidence in England's bowling attack, its going to take a miracle spell from one of the bowlers (obviously gonna have to be Swann, isn't it) for us to win this. A weaker Pakistan line-up has managed to chase a more challenging total in worse conditions at a more dangerous track...and recently...

It's going to be tough for England,if some how Broad could add 20 or so and we get conditions in our favour, I think Anderson and Swann could make it interesting.Broad could produce one of his once a series,magic bowling spells.I just want to see some fight from England and some great bowling with no freebies served up,if Pakistan can chase the score after that good on them.

 

[Faisal1985]

It's going to be tough for England,if some how Broad could add 20 or so and we get conditions in our favour, I think Anderson and Swann could make it interesting.Broad could produce one of his once a series,magic bowling spells.I just want to see some fight from England and some great bowling with no freebies served up,if Pakistan can chase the score after that good on them.

Lets be honest now that i am a bit more sane after going on a complete

I think the English posters are really making it as if England is that big of an underdog in the game...Pakistan has Mo Yo for sure..but still the batting line up is fragile enough to fail to chase a 150 odd total...why? Look at it this way....Venue Sydney, batting line up had Mo Yo...Pitch...good for spinners but not that great for fast bowlers...guess what...we collapsed...Umar Akmal was in good form...Yousuf looked brilliant until that blinder by Hauritz...

Now, Venue Oval, conditions...good for spin and fast bowling...England has a better spinner and a better fast bowling attack...

It is no where close to being as easy a win for Pak..there is no way this is a walk in the park even as of tonight...146 is a very nervy total for Pak....

 

[tombarlow123]

OK, it has to be said, Cook's innings was fantastic, it was brilliant to watch and i'm very happy for him. But its actually quite worrying how many of England's batsmen have had to play these 'last chance saloon', career-saving innings. Strauss hit that 177 in Napier; Bell has had several of them, most recently in South Africa last year; Colly did it at Edgbaston against SA; Cook has now done it twice (first against SA again, in Durban last year); and I'm pretty sure there's one round the corner for KP, considering he's been out of nick for over a year now...

...anyway all of this shows that there is no consistency to our batting lineup - we have a go at Anderson for it but our entire batting lineup seems to go through huge peaks and troughs constantly. I know i'm a doom merchant but its pretty worrying for the future...

AAAAAH!