Broad cops up a bit of trouble.

[GIMH]

When Broad stood on the ball, didn't he stand on the wrong side for it to be tampering?

To say that's as blatant as eating the ball is up there as one of the erm, more questionable, things I have read on CW.

If I didn't like Matt so much I might have used a different term than the italicised tbbh

 

[Avada Kedavra]

When Broad stood on the ball, didn't he stand on the wrong side for it to be tampering?

To say that's as blatant as eating the ball is up there as one of the erm, more questionable, things I have read on CW.

If I didn't like Matt so much I might have used a different term than the italicised tbbh

The intent was the same

AK - you're entitled to your opinion and I'm certainly not going to try and censor it, but I would ask that if you want to have this discussion, please be conscious that it's one that tends to get people on both sides quite upset and has often ended up degenerating into a slanging match that does no-one any good.

I have not insulted a player or a team - I do think the ICC are not quite consistent in the punishments they hand out,but that's just my opinion.Plenty of people have posted drivel about how ICC changed rules for Asian players,about how ICC is BCCI's slave - not in this thread...I don't see why my opinion is any different to that.

Fair call though about this not doing anyone any good.Back to the topic

 

[Matt79]

My point was not that you can't discuss the topic. My point was that in discussing this topic the moderation team expects you and everyone else to be careful to avoid being inflammatory or insulting (and when deciding whether something fits that description to remember that this is an issue where people on both "sides" can be easily offended by a poorly phrased remark). It's the only way we can have a sensible discussion on this issue.

 

[Jacknife]

The suggestion that Afridis' ball biting incident,behind the umpires' back,is the same as Broad stopping a fast moving ball with his foot straight in front of the umpire, is the same .Is obviously trying to fit his own agenda about Broad.Come on you may dislike Broad but the 2 are miles apart.

 

[GIMH]

The intent was the same



I have not insulted a player or a team - I do think the ICC are not quite consistent in the punishments they hand out,but that's just my opinion.Plenty of people have posted drivel about how ICC changed rules for Asian players,about how ICC is BCCI's slave - not in this thread...I don't see why my opinion is any different to that.

Fair call though about this not doing anyone any good.Back to the topic

No the intent was not the same, or at least there is nothing definitive in Broad's actions as obvious as Afridi's. Anyone who thinks they are the same is looking to cause trouble.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

No the intent was not the same, or at least there is nothing definitive in Broad's actions as obvious as Afridi's. Anyone who thinks they are the same is looking to cause trouble.

Same goes for everyone who's claiming that Asif and Broad had the same intent.Thank you very much

 

[Sir Alex]

Will have to agree to disagree I guess.

Would be awesome if he did it to Sachin. Outrage would be huge.

Would also be awesome if he did it to Kallis. The ball would ricochet of the man's chest right back into Broad's face, such is the size of the man's upper body.

Ha ha the ladyboy tried sledging Ganguly the last time we visited England. Ganguly got completely flared up and talked back, something like when I started out you were not even toilet trained or something, the very next ball was dispatched for a six.

The **** has the ignominy of being carted for 6 sixes and that too by Waterboy, still thinks he's reincarnation of Marshall. Complete **** and the cricketer I hate the most.

It's funny to see how people stoop low trying to defend him.

 

[Jono]

A shame too, because he's damn talented.

Career has gone the opposite way of Waterboy post six 6s I'd say. Broad has blossomed whereas Yuvraj has tapered off.

Both dicks.

 

[NasserFan207]

Man, what a fuss. Its not like bowlers 'throwing' cricket balls at batsman with the intention of causing injury is a particularly rare thing.

 

[Sir Alex]

That said, the ball stepping on might have been just another brainfart. I don't think he's got that guts.

However his ****ing clown act of not appealin and celebrating must be brought to an end. There is no way the law is selectively applicable to one set of guys while not applicable to others. He and Watson have been beneficiaries of the referee's largesse. No wonder he's getting rotten in his behaviour every match. Even his captain has admitted it.

 

[NasserFan207]

I don't like the appealing thing either, but is there an actual law against looking like a prick?

 

[Sir Alex]

A shame too, because he's damn talented.

Career has gone the opposite way of Waterboy post six 6s I'd say. Broad has blossomed whereas Yuvraj has tapered off.

Both dicks.

The lady still averages 35 in test cricket despite being up against the likes of WI, Pak, Ban etc. Sharma is better in terms of talent.

 

[Jono]

Meh, I like Sharma but Broad has probably done a bit more.

Wonder what Broad's average is from Jan 2009 onwards.

 

[Jarquis]

Meh, I like Sharma but Broad has probably done a bit more.

Wonder what Broad's average is from Jan 2009 onwards.

4th highest wicket taker, averaging a lick over 30. Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com

Sharma

 

[Scaly piscine]

Same goes for everyone who's claiming that Asif and Broad had the same intent.Thank you very much

Because you can clearly prove intent. Asif threw the ball harder, his just missed Collingwood and the keeper caught it. Broad hit the batsman. Given the standards of Pakistan fielding Asif probably meant to throw it to gully or some such. You can't pick on one just because they managed to hit a batsman and the other did not.

 

[Sir Alex]

Let Broad play the same amount of tests that Sharma play on dead and unfriendly tracks and we'll see. What's his average in Bangladesh again?

 

[Fusion]

Because you can clearly prove intent. Asif threw the ball harder, his just missed Collingwood and the keeper caught it. Broad hit the batsman. Given the standards of Pakistan fielding Asif probably meant to throw it to gully or some such. You can't pick on one just because they managed to hit a batsman and the other did not.

So let’s assume that the Asif/Broad incidents are the same for the sake of the argument. What exactly is your point in bringing that up? The “others do it too” excuse?

 

[blahblahblah]

this guy is just an useless idiot

 

[Jarquis]

Let Broad play the same amount of tests that Sharma play on dead and unfriendly tracks and we'll see. What's his average in Bangladesh again?

Zaheer Khan averages ~28 in the same period. Playing in the same team. Must be flat as pancakes.

His average in Bangladesh is 46 ftr, still less than Zaheer has managed in the entire time period.

Hmm.. Broad, in South Africa against one of the best batting lineups in their own back yard, managed 13@33.46
Meanwhile, in similar conditions, against a much, much inferior batting lineup in the shape of New Zealand, Sharma managed 8@41.75

Pretty good indication of where they're at IMO.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

Because you can clearly prove intent. Asif threw the ball harder, his just missed Collingwood and the keeper caught it. Broad hit the batsman. Given the standards of Pakistan fielding Asif probably meant to throw it to gully or some such. You can't pick on one just because they managed to hit a batsman and the other did not.

Oh really?You can?

Prove to me that Broad's intent was any different to Afridi's then.

You can't.Right?

And a big LOL@the bolded part.So you agree that Asif didn't intend to throw it at the batsman,nor did it hit the batsman anyway.You are only arguing for the sake of arguing.Thanks for confirming that

Seriously,if people are going to say that Asif and Broad had the same intent,then they can have no issues with people saying Afridi and Broad had the same intent,period.