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Broad cops up a bit of trouble.

flibbertyjibber

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Funniest thing was that my 7 year old daughter would probably have thrown it harder than Broad did and everyone is getting so wound up.

Yes he was a prat and has been on many occasions and deserves his punishment but he isn't the evil demon he is being made out to be by some on here.
 
Zaheer Khan averages ~28 in the same period. Playing in the same team. Must be flat as pancakes.

His average in Bangladesh is 46 ftr, still less than Zaheer has managed in the entire time period.

Hmm.. Broad, in South Africa against one of the best batting lineups in their own back yard, managed 13@33.46
Meanwhile, in similar conditions, against a much, much inferior batting lineup in the shape of New Zealand, Sharma managed 8@41.75

Pretty good indication of where they're at IMO.
Broad averages 56.11 in Asia.

EDIT : Like I mentioned in the Sehwag vs Hayden thread,the pitches during India's tour of NZ 09 were good pitches for batting.Most batsmen from both sides cashed in.
 
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gvenkat

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Broad, That girlie fella is a spoiled brat.. His father was no saint either.. He should have been banned...for atleast one game..

Suleimann Benn was banned for provoking Steyn who spit on him..

ICC really don't have a clue... I think there should be a system like yellow card/red card for offenses like these...

Yello card meaning you are warned and a red meaning you are sent off for a an hour or so from the field.
 

blahblahblah

International 12th Man
Broad, That girlie fella is a spoiled brat.. His father was no saint either.. He should have been banned...for atleast one game..

Suleimann Benn was banned for provoking Steyn who spit on him..

ICC really don't have a clue... I think there should be a system like yellow card/red card for offenses like these...

Yello card meaning you are warned and a red meaning you are sent off for a an hour or so from the field.
:clapping:
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Prove to me that Broad's intent was any different to Afridi's then.

You can't.Right?
One quite clearly can; as I intimated before players in the field use their feet to stop the ball quite regularly. But their teeth whilst already in control of the ball? Not so much. In the former instance there is reasonable doubt, in the latter case none.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum, I'd say.

What this has to do with Broad being a **** tho I fail to see. Broad behaved like a spoilt child and was rightly punished; if he does it again a ban might ensue. Pretty much covers it.
 
One quite clearly can; as I intimated before players in the field use their feet to stop the ball quite regularly. But their teeth whilst already in control of the ball? Not so much. In the former instance there is reasonable doubt, in the latter case none.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum, I'd say.

What this has to do with Broad being a **** tho I fail to see. Broad behaved like a spoilt child and was rightly punished; if he does it again a ban might ensue. Pretty much covers it.
Same goes for the Asif-Broad issue.All I am saying....Asif's quite clearly was unintentional,at least "there is reasonable doubt"..In Broad's case there is none.It was very deliberate and that pathetic "apology" didn't fool anyone.Just peeved that some posters here are trying to defend Broad.That's all.Nothing against him.
 

BoyBrumby

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Same goes for the Asif-Broad issue.All I am saying....Asif's quite clearly was unintentional,at least "there is reasonable doubt"..In Broad's case there is none.It was very deliberate and that pathetic "apology" didn't fool anyone.Just peeved that some posters here are trying to defend Broad.That's all.Nothing against him.
Well, no. The situations aren't quite analogous. I must confess to not even having registered the Asif "incident" at the time & still haven't seen it since, but him throwing the ball to the keeper is in exactly the same ball park as Broad doing likewise. It's just that Asif's aim appears to have been rather better and, having seen the respective players' mastery of control whilst bowling, that's only as one would expect it should be.

There's more in common with the two instances than there is with Broad stepping on the ball and Afridi biting it in any event.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
Same goes for the Asif-Broad issue.All I am saying....Asif's quite clearly was unintentional,at least "there is reasonable doubt"..In Broad's case there is none.It was very deliberate and that pathetic "apology" didn't fool anyone.Just peeved that some posters here are trying to defend Broad.That's all.Nothing against him.
Having gone back to watch the Asif incident, they actually virtually mirrored each other, accept Colly was watching the bowler and swayed backwards and the ball passed in front of his chest ,while Broad threw the ball at Haider and he wasn't watching to move out of the way.I'm not defending Broad in the slightest ,he got punished rightly so,but I find it interesting you have slammed Broad ,while you seem to be be making every excuse for Asif.
 
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Top_Cat

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Thought you followed AFL? Adam Goodes gave a very small finger wave at an ump on the weekend and got a fifty meter penalty given.
Was the right decision. Do not want our game to turn into soccer with players charging at the umpires/referees and showing absolutely no respect.
*blatant threadjack because, let's face it, this is the bigger issue*

AWTJono and DWTJono, tbh. We don't want it to be soccer but, FFS, the umpires have been hitting the big red 50m button far too readily this year. Free kick, man on the mark chucks the ball at the oppo player, because it didn't land squarely on his chest *FWEEE* 50m. **** off.
 

Matt79

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Ha ha the ladyboy tried sledging Ganguly the last time we visited England. Ganguly got completely flared up and talked back, something like when I started out you were not even toilet trained or something, the very next ball was dispatched for a six.

The **** has the ignominy of being carted for 6 sixes and that too by Waterboy, still thinks he's reincarnation of Marshall. Complete **** and the cricketer I hate the most.

It's funny to see how people stoop low trying to defend him.
That said, the ball stepping on might have been just another brainfart. I don't think he's got that guts.

However his ****ing clown act of not appealin and celebrating must be brought to an end. There is no way the law is selectively applicable to one set of guys while not applicable to others. He and Watson have been beneficiaries of the referee's largesse. No wonder he's getting rotten in his behaviour every match. Even his captain has admitted it.
The lady still averages 35 in test cricket despite being up against the likes of WI, Pak, Ban etc. Sharma is better in terms of talent.
Let Broad play the same amount of tests that Sharma play on dead and unfriendly tracks and we'll see. What's his average in Bangladesh again?
Sir Alex - the quoted posts, in the context of a general warning in the thread regarding keeping a level of civility in the conversation, and avoiding a flame session, are hard to interpret as anything other than an attempt to incite an argument and derail a thread. While we try to moderate each post on its merits, when someone steps over the line, we dont ignore their track record for similar issues This is an official warning - don't do it again.
 
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vic_orthdox

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Throwing the ball back to the keeper, close to the batsman, is a fairly common tactic used to unsettle batsmen. The onus is on the fielder to make sure that he doesn't hit the batsman. If you hit him, then you should go out of your way to ensure that you're apology at least seems genuine.
 

Burgey

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I haven't seen the Asif one I don't think...did Colly actually have to jump out of the way or would it have missed anyway?
Simon Jones did this to Hayden at the start of the 05 series. Nothing was done of course, about the deliberate attempt to maim one of our blokes, or the horrendous sledging and appalling gutter tactics of the England fielders which followed.

Not to mention the mints. Which I just did.

No wonder Matty was scarred for the rest of the series. England will stoop to new lows if they have to. This thing of Broad's is just another example of it.
 

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Funniest thing was that my 7 year old daughter would probably have thrown it harder than Broad did and everyone is getting so wound up.
No-one's saying he blatantly tried to injure the batter but this minimisation of it isn't helpful either. A joke throw from a bloke who bowls 90mph+ is obviously going to hurt a lot more than the hardest throw of your average weekend warrior, let alone your 7 year old. That he pretty much brushed it off just made it worse.

That said, a fine was fair enough, don't think this deserved a ban.
 

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Simon Jones did this to Hayden at the start of the 05 series. Nothing was done of course, about the deliberate attempt to maim one of our blokes, or the horrendous sledging and appalling gutter tactics of the England fielders which followed.

Not to mention the mints. Which I just did.

No wonder Matty was scarred for the rest of the series. England will stoop to new lows if they have to. This thing of Broad's is just another example of it.
Only copied what Aussies had done for years previously.:ph34r:
 
Having gone back to watch the Asif incident, they actually virtually mirrored each other, accept Colly was watching the bowler and swayed backwards and the ball passed in front of his chest ,while Broad threw the ball at Haider and he wasn't watching to move out of the way.I'm not defending Broad in the slightest ,he got punished rightly so,but I find it interesting you have slammed Broad ,while you seem to be be making every excuse for Asif.

Not true....anyone got a link?
 

BoyBrumby

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Simon Jones did this to Hayden at the start of the 05 series. Nothing was done of course, about the deliberate attempt to maim one of our blokes, or the horrendous sledging and appalling gutter tactics of the England fielders which followed.

Not to mention the mints. Which I just did.

No wonder Matty was scarred for the rest of the series. England will stoop to new lows if they have to. This thing of Broad's is just another example of it.
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Can't help but notice Jonah looked a lot more sincere in his apology to the brick-outhouse proportioned QLD opener than Broad was to the somewhat more slender Pakistani stumper.

As I recall Collingwood looked more up for a spot of pagga when Hayden remonstrated.
 

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