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*Official* Australia in England

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Haha, no ODI side these days unless it's a world cup will ever be 100% full strength, but this is pretty close to it. Not sure where all this second XI crap is coming from.
To be fair I actually think England are 100% full strength for this game. Or at least they think they are; they aren't resting anyone.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
The point's sort of irrelevant, it's just so predictable that you'll just come up with any excuse under the sun to try and deny that England might have actually played well. Ever.
It's also rubbish. Harris was one of the first picked for South Australia when he moved.

Or alternatively you could just reply with "since when did Jimmy move towns?" :ph34r:
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
To be fair I actually think England are 100% full strength for this game. Or at least they think they are; they aren't resting anyone.
Yeah, given recent events we might have picked Sidebottom instead of Anderson if he was 100% fit (not that I would) but otherwise I don't think the selectors would pick a different side (can't see Flintoff ever returning)
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The point's sort of irrelevant, it's just so predictable that you'll just come up with any excuse under the sun to try and deny that England might have actually played well. Ever.
No excuses other than we have our 3rd sting attack with us on a meaningless tour

Funny how Mike Atherton is saying the same thing
 

pskov

International 12th Man
The point's sort of irrelevant, it's just so predictable that you'll just come up with any excuse under the sun to try and deny that England might have actually played well. Ever.
I don't how I could live with social's killjoy worldview. If CW was around in 1981 and everyone on here had been going crazy about Botham's magnificent innings and Willis' superb spell to win it he'd be banging on about how Australia had given it away and how they aren't as good a side as they were in the 70s anyway. :laugh:
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It's also rubbish. Harris was one of the first picked for South Australia when he moved.

Or alternatively you could just reply with "since when did Jimmy move towns?" :ph34r:
Would you have prefered to play the inaccurate, 130ish Harris at Adelaide or the 150k guy at the Gabba?

One was average, the other plays for Australia

It's common knowledge btw
 

NasserFan207

International Vice-Captain
No excuses other than we have our 3rd sting attack with us on a meaningless tour

Funny how Mike Atherton is saying the same thing
Nah, second string at most. Johnson is the only bowler you're really missing imo.

I liked the look of Hazlewood btw.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Would you have prefered to play the inaccurate, 130ish Harris at Adelaide or the 150k guy at the Gabba?

One was average, the other plays for Australia

It's common knowledge btw
No denying that Harris has improved, but he was getting picked for South Australia before the improvement anyway and, more importantly, how on earth is that relevant?

"Haha England are crap/didn't deserve to win because Australia picked a bowler who has immensely improved over the last few years" just doesn't seem to follow any sort of logic. Harris is among Australia's best four fit limited overs bowlers - whether he was much chop three years ago isn't really relevant to whether it's a third string attack or not.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
If this is Australia's 3rd String attack, who would make up the 1st string?
I imagine the pecking order's something like this:

First XI: Bollinger, Harris, Johnson, Hauritz, Hopes (and Watto)
Second XI: Lee, Hilfenhaus, McKay, Smith
Third XI: .. erm.. Tait, Bracken, Hazelwood and Hollard or something?

So basically, one player was missing from Australia's first-choice six-man bowling attack, and he was replaced by a young bloke to give him some exposure. One player hardly makes a whole attack "third string" though; it's a gross exaggeration.
 
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zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
No denying that Harris has improved, but he was getting picked for South Australia before the improvement anyway and, more importantly, how on earth is that relevant?

"Haha England are crap/didn't deserve to win because Australia picked a bowler who has immensely improved over the last few years" just doesn't seem to follow any sort of logic. Harris is among Australia's best four fit limited overs bowlers - whether he was much chop three years ago isn't really relevant to whether it's a third string attack or not.
This.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No denying that Harris has improved, but he was getting picked for South Australia before the improvement anyway and, more importantly, how on earth is that relevant?

"Haha England are crap/didn't deserve to win because Australia picked a bowler who has immensely improved over the last few years" just doesn't seem to follow any sort of logic. Harris is among Australia's best four fit limited overs bowlers - whether he was much chop three years ago isn't really relevant to whether it's a third string attack or not.
I never said that Eng didnt deserve to win

What I've said earlier is that this whole series is irrelevant

It's not a precursor to a world cup in England so it doesnt involve practise for that series

It's not a precursor to a test series in England so it doesnt involve practise for that series

It's a money making excercise - nothing more or less

IMO, Oz have taken the best of the rest to England to make money for their boards and it devalues the whole contest
 

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