Sir Alex
Banned
You know it's like a ritual. The sacred boxinine.
-
Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
Richards v Tendulkar - ODIs
- Thread starter Pratters
- Start date
Sir Alex
Banned
Top order batters (1-3) ever based on super average (min 2000 runs)
Shane Watson you're a star.
Code:
No Player Mat Runs Avg SR Superavg
1 IVA Richards (WI) 52 2418 57.57 86.88 50.02
2 SR Tendulkar (India) 334 14574 47.78 87.73 41.92
3 Zaheer Abbas (Pak) 48 2009 45.65 85.74 39.14
4 BC Lara (WI) 161 6613 45.92 81.93 37.62
5 SR Watson (Aus) 53 2072 43.16 86.40 37.29
6 V Sehwag (India) 196 6688 35.76 104.12 37.23
7 AC Gilchrist (Aus/ICC) 261 9229 36.47 97.87 35.69
8 RT Ponting (Aus/ICC) 311 12125 43.93 81.03 35.60
9 CH Gayle (ICC/WI) 199 7535 41.62 84.14 35.02
10 ML Hayden (Aus) 153 6033 44.03 78.68 34.64
11 GC Smith (Afr/SA) 149 5613 40.67 83.09 33.79
12 JH Kallis (Afr/ICC/SA) 185 7028 46.23 72.85 33.68
13 G Gambhir (India) 92 3115 38.45 85.22 32.77
14 ME Waugh (Aus) 176 6926 42.75 76.26 32.60
15 GA Hick (Eng) 61 2230 42.88 75.31 32.29
16 Saeed Anwar (Pak) 232 8605 40.02 80.46 32.20
17 ME Trescothick (Eng) 123 4335 37.37 85.21 31.84
18 SC Ganguly (Asia/India) 275 10622 42.83 73.86 31.63
19 DM Jones (Aus) 134 5192 44.00 71.86 31.62
20 S Chanderpaul (WI) 100 3938 44.75 69.50 31.10
21 HH Dippenaar (Afr/SA) 57 2174 45.29 67.66 30.64
22 RA Smith (Eng) 56 2038 43.36 69.43 30.10
23 G Kirsten (SA) 179 6673 40.93 72.08 29.50
24 HH Gibbs (SA) 201 6581 35.19 83.65 29.44
25 CG Greenidge (WI) 120 4993 45.39 64.65 29.34
Cevno
Hall of Fame Member
Though to be honest ,he does have some posting history atleast in one thread unlike some on the poll.
Maximus0723
State Regular
What helps Sachin's case in my mind is the presence of specialist ODI players. King Viv played mostly with specialist test players compared to specialist ODI players.
Also in the 90s lot of weight was put on ODI.
Also in the 90s lot of weight was put on ODI.
Teja.
Global Moderator
On paper, Viv Richards.
But to come out and bat when his team is collapsing around him in a run chase, not letting his confidence be blown, taking the charge upto the bowlers when you are 8 wickets down and have 20 overs to go and most importantly, Even after scoring a massive century if his team lets him down, not to grieve over it but come back in the next game with the same fire in the belly, the same venom and bat like his ass is on fire, I'd pick only one ODI player across the decades, and not a particularly tall one at that.
But to come out and bat when his team is collapsing around him in a run chase, not letting his confidence be blown, taking the charge upto the bowlers when you are 8 wickets down and have 20 overs to go and most importantly, Even after scoring a massive century if his team lets him down, not to grieve over it but come back in the next game with the same fire in the belly, the same venom and bat like his ass is on fire, I'd pick only one ODI player across the decades, and not a particularly tall one at that.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I agree but that bolded part seems like it could apply to quite a few across generations..On paper, Viv Richards.
But to come out and bat when his team is collapsing around him in a run chase, not letting his confidence be blown, taking the charge upto the bowlers when you are 8 wickets down and have 20 overs to go and most importantly, Even after scoring a massive century if his team lets him down, not to grieve over it but come back in the next game with the same fire in the belly, the same venom and bat like his ass is on fire, I'd pick only one ODI player across the decades, and not a particularly tall one at that.
Teja.
Global Moderator
Yeah, but it has happened to Sachin more times than anyone else. IMO.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
fair enough.. I agree as far as ODIs go..
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
When you play 450-odd games with a team prone to doing such things, that's hardly surprising.
Teja.
Global Moderator
Haha :P , most of it happened between 1995-2000 thoughWhen you play 450-odd games with a team prone to doing such things, that's hardly surprising.
Typical Headlines back then were
'Sachin Blaze doesn't take India home'
'Master sizzles as mates collapse'
'So close yet so far'
and the like.
no those are obvious occasions where he choked, why should his teammates take any blame...don't you know that he is the greatest choker in the history of cricket?Even after scoring a massive century if his team lets him down, not to grieve over it but come back in the next game with the same fire in the belly, the same venom and bat like his ass is on fire, I'd pick only one ODI player across the decades, and not a particularly tall one at that.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Richards was leading 42 to 33 or some thing. The recent inflow of Indian posters in the forum means the score line is more tight now 44 to 37. Given more Indian posters on the site than West Indian ones, I think the bias is tilted towards Tendulkar and despite it Richards is the leader of the polls. Every other media publication would proclaim Tendulkar as the greatest ever ODI cricket forgetting history but it is nice to know we have a bit of perspective and a vastly more intelligent cricket fan base here at CW. The collection of cricket lovers on this site is just superb.
Last edited:
Cruxdude
International Debutant
Proclaiming Tendulkar to be the greatest ODI player is not a tall claim to make and there is nothing like a loss of perspective if someone says so. Also it doesn't make anyone less intelligent about cricket to make that claim. Some people may rate Richards higher but even they will not find anything wrong with claiming Tendulkar is best.
Teja.
Global Moderator
You, my friend, are talking as if it is an obvious fact that Richards is better than SRT.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
@ Cruxdude - If this poll was held on the internet on a portal like cricinfo or even on the cricketweb main site, 70-75 percent of the people would say Tendulkar is the best. Most people I talk to don't even consider any one close to Tendulkar in ODIs. That's discrediting Richards.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
I am not. It is fair enough to say either is the greatest.
Cruxdude
International Debutant
That is true, but your post seemed to mean something different so I came up with that.
Teja.
Global Moderator
Fair enough, You could have framed it a little better though. Peace.
Pratters.