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*Official* England in Bangladesh

wfdu_ben91

International 12th Man
What's the big deal about Shahzad anyway? Mediocre first-class stats. Probably end up being the next failed Asian-Pom out of the system.
 

Aritro

International Regular
:lol:

Ball wobbled a bit in the air, but you'd reasonably expect a batsman to manage not to get out like that tbh.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
(re. Hoggard being better then our seamers in this game)
Oh without a doubt. As are others I will not name
It would be interesting to know who you had in mind for your second point.
Possibly Plunkett, as already mentioned. Beyond that, my impression is that alternatives are much of a muchness. For all the resaons that have been trotted out too often for me to repeat right now.
 
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wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Gee, this is a shambles, isn't it. Cook will probably get pilloried for not enforcing the folow on, but he's entiteled to expect his top 6 to at least bat like guys who do the job for a living.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
We've got enough runs now, wonder if he'll declare overnight. Suspect he might try and get 100 more.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
A few of the dismissals were soft but the intent from KP and Colly was right. Can't bag them for trying to up the R/R which was more than Carberry and Trott were doing.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Make up of the team wrong then? If ever a track was crying out for a second spinner it's this one. I'd personally have gone with 5 bowlers too on the basis that he'd be of more use than another batsman, especially with the depth we have now.

Tredwell in for Carberry or Trott & Plunkett in for Bresnan or Finn would be my team.
 

pskov

International 12th Man
To be honest taking into account that they didn't pick Tredwell on a pitch they knew was a turner like this, with our injuries in the bowling department and the fact that he took a big haul in the warm up match at the same ground, I can't see when the selectors would ever pick him.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
As most of us have said to death already, had to pick Rashid then you could have a proper 5-man bowling attack which is infinitely better balanced than having Tredwell in any bowling attack with Swann.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
As most of us have said to death already, had to pick Rashid then you could have a proper 5-man bowling attack which is infinitely better balanced than having Tredwell in any bowling attack with Swann.
Yeah this would have been perfect for Adil.

Anyway, **** me I hate teams not enforcing the follow on. Bull**** cricket. Im done with this Test. **** selection, **** strategy.
 

Woodster

International Captain
Thought Bresnan and Finn improved a great deal today, both got the ball to reverse at decent enough pace. The Bresnan delivery that removed Tamim was outstanding, getting in closer to the stumps from around the wicket, the ball nibbled just enough to clip the top of off stump, perfect. I know there are a few on here that dislike his selection, and there is nothing exceptional about him, he's an honest toiler, that is not express, just bowls decent areas with a hint of movement, was a good day for him today, and was unlucky not to pick up a couple more.

Finn settled down today, found a decent length and showed impressive skills in reversing the ball both ways at around 85-87mph. His bounce will be important on livelier tracks, if I was to compare his style at this moment would probably say more Ishant Sharma than Steve Harmison.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Thought Bresnan and Finn improved a great deal today, both got the ball to reverse at decent enough pace. The Bresnan delivery that removed Tamim was outstanding, getting in closer to the stumps from around the wicket, the ball nibbled just enough to clip the top of off stump, perfect. I know there are a few on here that dislike his selection, and there is nothing exceptional about him, he's an honest toiler, that is not express, just bowls decent areas with a hint of movement, was a good day for him today, and was unlucky not to pick up a couple more.

Finn settled down today, found a decent length and showed impressive skills in reversing the ball both ways at around 85-87mph. His bounce will be important on livelier tracks, if I was to compare his style at this moment would probably say more Ishant Sharma than Steve Harmison.
The Bresnan ball was a nice. A beautiful length and that did a little off the track. Never easy to displace a guy on a decent score but he played it really badly. Didnt get into line and got trapped on the crease. 2 sins for the price of one. Made a good ball look like a world beater.

Regarding Finn. He has great foot position. Its something I find very interesting. I am in my early 30s and I was heavily criticised for my foot position growing up (not MCC old boy) but now virtually all quicks have the same. There were obviously some before me and I clearly didnt influence the trend but it is great to be validated.

As for what I said earlier about being finished with this game, Ill be watching later :dry:
 
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Woodster

International Captain
The Bresnan ball was a nice. A beautiful length and that little grip off the track. Never easy to displace a guy on a decent score but he played it really badly. Didnt get into line and go trapped on the crease. 2 sins for the price of one. Made a good ball look like a world beater.

Regarding Finn. He has great foot position. Its something I find very interesting. I am in my early 30s and I was heavily criticised for my foot position growing up (not MCC old boy) but now virtually all quicks have the same. There were obviuosly some before me and I clearly didnt influence the trend but it is great to be validated.

As for what I said earlier about being finished with this game, Ill be watching later :dry:
Yes invariably when a batsman is bowled there is something technically he could have done better, and you're right in that his footwork was not decisive, but I think in this case I would rather credit the bowler for producing a peach.

Regarding Finn's foot position, it was not something I looked at tbf, so will take your word on this area. I like his action, seems reasonably upright, strong action, and wrist position must be pretty good judging on his skills with reverse swing today.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No surprise that England are batting on, guess they will get the lead to about 500, would be ridiculously conservative if they went any further than that.
 

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