vic_orthdox
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Mother is Dutch.Tom cooper will play for holland in the pro 40 comp as a local,he maybe able to represent holland in interntionals.
Mother is Dutch.Tom cooper will play for holland in the pro 40 comp as a local,he maybe able to represent holland in interntionals.
Its trying to be more like the IPL. I dont think we need that though. I cant say i like the idea of a city team much at all, would rather they added an ACT and/or NT team.My god that sounds ****ed on so many levels.
1. Why the **** tinker with the actual teams in the Big Bash; teams that people identify with? Cricket in Australia has never been city-based. City-based teams have no history.
3. Why put players into a pool, where you would end up having West Australians playing for Eastern states, and Eastern state players playing for states where they have never resided? How do you identify with a team when blow-ins are populating it?
Absolutely ****ed on so many levels.
Tom cooper will play for holland in the pro 40 comp as a local,he maybe able to represent holland in interntionals.
Yes, I think playing club cricket in Holland aswell. Would mean that the club side would have an overseas pro also, could be a decent lineup haha.Mother is Dutch.
See your point to a degree but it's not helping guys like Cullen. Bloke turns up almost every day at SACA, bowls his guts out, is marooned in Adelaide grade averaging 30+ this year. The only guys to really dominate Adelaide grade for many years have been wristies before anyone says anything, the pitches make it very tough for a finger spinner to do well.Here's a thought: for a spinner to be Sheffield Shield quality at an age of 23 or less is rare. Why push for these spinners, rather than let them come through naturally by making them work harder and prove their worth against proper 2nd XI batsmen, not compromised sides.
Here's a thought: for a spinner to be Sheffield Shield quality at an age of 23 or less is rare. Why push for these spinners, rather than let them come through naturally by making them work harder and prove their worth against proper 2nd XI batsmen, not compromised sides.
Yea I agree, I really think the futures format could be better.I gather the above is a dig at the Futures?
Also maybe because finger spinners in general bowl pump.The only guys to really dominate Adelaide grade for many years have been wristies before anyone says anything, the pitches make it very tough for a finger spinner to do well.
Not helped by the best spinners not playing A-grade too.Also maybe because finger spinners in general bowl pump.
How long ago was this? Would think there would be more too it than that though. If he's going to rip it, whatever grade, will be a similar result. If you rip it and bowl well, you take wickets, if you throw it up and bowl **** you get smacked. Obviously if you're going to get pumped throwing it up in grade cricket you will in state matches too, and if when he throws it up it's c grade spin, well thats not helping the a grade team anyway, never mind state cricket/higher. Anyway, /rantNot helped by the best spinners not playing A-grade too.
It's an old example now which I've posted before but I'm led to believe, sadly, it still applies. Matthew Minagall was a bloke known as having lots of potential when moving up the junior grades With West Torrens. Was told if he tried to spin up, he'd be playing C-grade but if he bowled straight, he'd be in the A-grade side. Played a handful of state games and barely turned one off the straight despite having the ability to rip them miles. Many a spinner has been lost to SA cricket for the same reason.
Spin bowling requires you to spin it. Its better for his long term future to be continuing to spin the ball and work on his accuracy slowly, so that he can combine them and make himself a quality first class bowler. However, the sort of pressure described above sees him sacrifice spin for a short term achievement, which limits his ability to end up being as successful as he could have been.How long ago was this? Would think there would be more too it than that though. If he's going to rip it, whatever grade, will be a similar result. If you rip it and bowl well, you take wickets, if you throw it up and bowl **** you get smacked. Obviously if you're going to get pumped throwing it up in grade cricket you will in state matches too, and if when he throws it up it's c grade spin, well thats not helping the a grade team anyway, never mind state cricket/higher. Anyway, /rant
Minagall last played around the mid-90's but I haven't heard anything to suggest the situation has changed much.How long ago was this? Would think there would be more too it than that though. If he's going to rip it, whatever grade, will be a similar result. If you rip it and bowl well, you take wickets, if you throw it up and bowl **** you get smacked. Obviously if you're going to get pumped throwing it up in grade cricket you will in state matches too, and if when he throws it up it's c grade spin, well thats not helping the a grade team anyway, never mind state cricket/higher. Anyway, /rant
Spot.Spin bowling requires you to spin it. Its better for his long term future to be continuing to spin the ball and work on his accuracy slowly, so that he can combine them and make himself a quality first class bowler. However, the sort of pressure described above sees him sacrifice spin for a short term achievement, which limits his ability to end up being as successful as he could have been.
Maybe. Or maybe it allowed him to play higher than he would have otherwise. Who's to say he had the talent to land big-spinning deliveries consistently even with another, say 10 years of hard work, or whether that would even make him a better bowler. It's not just hard work and spinning up which makes guys state spinners IMO, there is an x factor. Maybe this person doesn't have that, and wouldn't play state cricket otherwise, and so by changing to a more defensive approach does get the most success out of their ability.Spin bowling requires you to spin it. Its better for his long term future to be continuing to spin the ball and work on his accuracy slowly, so that he can combine them and make himself a quality first class bowler. However, the sort of pressure described above sees him sacrifice spin for a short term achievement, which limits his ability to end up being as successful as he could have been.
Played for Glenelg which would be the most spin friendly deck I would say. Also was a first class spinner at the time, in career best form (took a f.c 10/match months later), and bowled leg spin not off.Michael Munday dominated a few seasons ago so it can be done. But then, being a blow-in at the Lehmann academy, Adelaide had to give him plenty of overs so he had lots of opportunity. Historically, it's more been opportunity than ability which has been lacking in Adelaide.
Haha, first I've ever heard of Glenelg being called spin-friendly. The Horses have a history of producing some pretty mean pace bowlers (Gladigau, Sincock, the Martins) and decent batters but Mallett's the only spinner of note I can think of.Played for Glenelg which would be the most spin friendly deck I would say. Also was a first class spinner at the time, in career best form (took a f.c 10/match months later), and bowled leg spin not off.