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**Official** West Indies domestic season 2010
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I predict he's going to be very popular.
WindieWeathers
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Would be silly if that's the reason. The Greatest Show On Earth is next weekend, in reality.
WindieWeathers
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Just a few things to talk about, firstly the most dangerous bowler in the current season Imran Khan has spoken about his hopes of catching the selectors eye during the next stage of the season HERE, his form has been outstanding really and it's incredible how fast his stock has risen, i like the way he talked about working on his deliveries in the nets, apparently he bowls leg-break and googlys which is a change from some of our other spinners, and when you consider he's decent with the bat too one has to imagine he'll be knocking on the door very strongly if his form continues in this vain.
Another story from this season that seems to have sneaked under the radar is the form of 19 year old batter Kyle Corbin, he plays for the Combined Campuses and Colleges and has got over 100 runs in the few games he's played this season, including 70 in his last game against Guyana, my only concern is he's an opener and when you consider that that position is likely to be taken by Brathwaite and Barath in the next 2 or 3years i wonder if he'll be able to adapt to batting at 3rd? has there been many openers who have successfully adapted to batting down the order before? i'm sure there's been a few.
Another story from this season that seems to have sneaked under the radar is the form of 19 year old batter Kyle Corbin, he plays for the Combined Campuses and Colleges and has got over 100 runs in the few games he's played this season, including 70 in his last game against Guyana, my only concern is he's an opener and when you consider that that position is likely to be taken by Brathwaite and Barath in the next 2 or 3years i wonder if he'll be able to adapt to batting at 3rd? has there been many openers who have successfully adapted to batting down the order before? i'm sure there's been a few.
shivfan
Banned
The day/night game between Jamaica and the CCC at Providence has just started....
2ov [. 4 4 . . .] 10/0: Parchment 9*, Hyatt 0*. Two delightful off side boundaries for Parchment, who first leans forward to stroke through the covers, then rocks back and late cuts to the vacant third man.
And at Bourda....
Leewards batting against the Windwards
38o [ 1 . . . . W ] Kieran Powell c Buter b Lewis 48. 91/2. Good catch at long on. The new batsman is Gavin Williams, making his debut.
And at Albion....
Guyana vs Barbados
Barbados 124/2
J Haynes 24*, R Hinds 10*
D Richards 55, K Brathwaite 33
So, while both Brathwaite and Powell have shown promise, they're still not ready for West Indies duties yet. They need to be able to push on from the starts that they've gotten. They are clearly players for the future, if they continue to improve. But, as today's innings' have shown, they're not ready yet....
Also, Barbados chose to omit Jason Holder from the squad, playing Corey Edwards instead. If he's not ready for Barbados yet, clearly he's not ready for West Indies duties yet, either.
2ov [. 4 4 . . .] 10/0: Parchment 9*, Hyatt 0*. Two delightful off side boundaries for Parchment, who first leans forward to stroke through the covers, then rocks back and late cuts to the vacant third man.
And at Bourda....
Leewards batting against the Windwards
38o [ 1 . . . . W ] Kieran Powell c Buter b Lewis 48. 91/2. Good catch at long on. The new batsman is Gavin Williams, making his debut.
And at Albion....
Guyana vs Barbados
Barbados 124/2
J Haynes 24*, R Hinds 10*
D Richards 55, K Brathwaite 33
So, while both Brathwaite and Powell have shown promise, they're still not ready for West Indies duties yet. They need to be able to push on from the starts that they've gotten. They are clearly players for the future, if they continue to improve. But, as today's innings' have shown, they're not ready yet....
Also, Barbados chose to omit Jason Holder from the squad, playing Corey Edwards instead. If he's not ready for Barbados yet, clearly he's not ready for West Indies duties yet, either.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
So we judge every player by one match now Mike? if that's the case have you seen our captains LAST TWO performances?
or even your hero Shivs performances over the past year? Powell is excelling coming in at three and is getting near 40 runs on most of the games he's played this season (he has over 130 runs in total) which shows he's consistently staying at the crease for a decent amount of time, he's also played two one dayers for the West Indies already so he's already got experience!! at that level, also this was Brathwaite's first game this season, so if he makes 100 in his next game i guess by your logic he'll be ready right? nah i doubt it 
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shivfan
Banned
Is Powell really excelling at three? This is his fourth match for the Leewards, and he's averaging 20, having failed to pass his highest score of 48 so far. Definitely not material to be called up to the WI yet. Our youngsters have to do a lot more with the bat if they want to be called into the WI team....So we judge every player by one match now Mike? if that's the case have you seen our captains LAST TWO performances?
As for Brathwaite, it's just his first match, and this 33 on a dead batting track shows that he still needs time to put together a proper season for Barbados, before we usher him into the WI side. As I've said time and time again, he needs to follow the well-worn path of Barath before he's chosen to play for the West Indies.
Interestingly, none of the batsmen were able to move on to three figures in any of the games yesterday, despite the dead batting tracks on display. HOpefully, we'll see some better batting on today's second day.
Beamer
International Vice-Captain
I know you are trying to debate WindieWeathers strange views on team selection but to say KB is not ready because he only got 33 on a flat track in his first innings of the season is ridiculous. What if he scores a century in his next two innings? I actually agree with you on the issue of playing the Under 19 guys but your line of reasoning in this case is completely flawed. Maybe I shall put it down to you trying to fight fire with fire
He's definitely not ready yet, I'm sure even Jason himself would admit that. But it was a brain-dead decision by the Bajan selectors to leave him out in favour of the insanely ordinary Corey Edwards. It was a decision based on loyalty to Bajan club cricket performers rather than cricket talent as Holder is already twice the bowler Edwards will ever be IMHO.
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shivfan
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Don't ignore this quote, Beamer - it's puts it all in context....
For some reason, this point that I keep trying to make is being conveniently ignored.
Beamer
International Vice-Captain
Yeah I saw that quote and agree with you regarding the youngsters. Barath should be the model they use to provide a stepladder for the youngsters to make it to the test level.Don't ignore this quote, Beamer - it's puts it all in context....
For some reason, this point that I keep trying to make is being conveniently ignored.
But I still think the statement that Braithwaite is clearly not ready based on his 33 runs yesterday is ridiculous. He's not ready based on the fact that we do not have a big enough sample of his performances at FC level to judge him by, not because he only made 33 on a flat track.
shivfan
Banned
My point about KB's innings was in that context. He shouldn't really be expected to translate his club form in Barbados and his u19 batting performances to the Test arena. I saw his performance of 33 in Guyana (a good innings for a debutant) as a wakeup call for some of his more blinkered supporters....
In a couple of years, if Brathwaite continues to improve, he will be in the WI side. But if he is pushed in too early - like Marshall and Samuels - he will struggle, like Marshall and Samuels did.
I see Dowrich has scored 24 in his first match. A good score for a wickie-batsman in his first match, but certainly not enough for him to be replacing Ramdin on batting ability....
In a couple of years, if Brathwaite continues to improve, he will be in the WI side. But if he is pushed in too early - like Marshall and Samuels - he will struggle, like Marshall and Samuels did.
I see Dowrich has scored 24 in his first match. A good score for a wickie-batsman in his first match, but certainly not enough for him to be replacing Ramdin on batting ability....
WindieWeathers
International Regular
Brathwaite got 77 on his FC debut so he's already shown he can bat for long spells, Barath had ups and downs too so judging the kid on his performance yesterday is frivolous imo, because just like i said he could make a 100 in his next game and then your argument goes out of the window, as for Powell, he started this season opening and has only moved to three recently, since then he's been making over 30 runs per match, and i believe his average will improve the more he plays, you can keep living in the past as far as Xavier is concerned but my argument is some youngsters are actually very talented and are capable of making the step up, especially if it's in an ODI against Zimbabwe, i'm not saying we should throw them in against South Africa.
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Barath returned for his club team and didn't stick around at the crease long, but he fielded for 50 overs and said he felt strong. Darren Bravo scored a quickfire half-century for Queen's Park.
shivfan
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Referring back to Xavier Marshall is not living in the past - it's an instructive case which we need to learn from....
Of course Barath had ups and downs, but crucially he scored several centuries for Trinidad before forcing his way into the WI side. Powell, Braithwaite, Corbin, Chandrika and Dowrich need to do that first before we call them up....
Yesterday, Corbin was out for 34, and Chadrika for 32, while Dowrich only made 24. We need more from them. And before anyone jumps on my reference to one innings, I haven't seen anything to indicate that these scores aren't abherrations right now!
They need more time in the middle, in order to improve....
Omari Banks took a seven-fer as well....