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*Official* English Football Season 2009-2010

duffer

duffer

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Eduardo wasn't charged for simulation, he was charged for "deceiving an official" or smething along those lines which happens many many times a game.

Complete joke, did they not watch their own showpiece Super Cup match and watch Barca and Shaktar players flop around everywhere? **** them off.

Also, Arsene really is cutting it very very close by not singing anyone. He's so worried about bringing in an experienced mid who will "kill" Denilson and Diaby yet doesn't realise that another repeat of last season and the Grove crowd will more or less do that themselves.

The team as it stands is very mentally susceptible to collapsing, I'm not sure how the poor dears will react to the crowd getting on their backs again. I love the man to death but if he was shocked with the reaction he and the team got last season then they better challenge very very strongly in the league this season or it'll be much worse come next year. Taking a huge gamble now.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

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Banning isn't a surprise given what the Lithuania player got last year thanks to the Scottish FA's badgering to FIFA. Just some muscle flexing from them, not like the protestant heavy Scottish FA (and their boys at UEFA) give two hoots about Celtic. They were probably supporting Arsenal in the tie but saw the incident as an ideal chance to show their political clout.

Arsenal won't get anywhere with this. David Dein had clout but I don't think he is at Arsenal anymore in any capacity.
 
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duffer

duffer

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Moral of the story being, it's okay to cheat just don't do anything to get the Jocks sweaty.
 
Ausage

Ausage

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duffer said:
Eduardo wasn't charged for simulation, he was charged for "deceiving an official" or smething along those lines which happens many many times a game.
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I'll be waiting for the next ban doled out to a player incorrectly claiming a throw-in/corner.
 
Ikki

Ikki

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BoyBrumby said:
I suppose they'd have to make "simulation" a straight red that carries a two-game ban. Wouldn't have a huge issue if they did personally, unless the precedent is just for offences the ref misses, in which case the whole thing is bollox.
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Not unless they argue that going without a yellow in the game justifies the bigger sanction post-game. Not that I actually mind that ban.
 
Uppercut

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Tbh, I don't give a crap about diving. Everyone in the UK seems to consider it the ultimate bane on the sport, a horrendous disease, the reason football isn't what it used to be and something horrendous that must be stamped out. Personally I don't care if someone dives to win a penalty, just as I don't care if someone claims a throw-in that didn't go their way. I just don't get what the fuss is about.

I hate feigning injury though. They all need to grow a ****ing set.
 
Ausage

Ausage

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Uppercut said:
Tbh, I don't give a crap about diving. Everyone in the UK seems to consider it the ultimate bane on the sport, a horrendous disease, the reason football isn't what it used to be and something horrendous that must be stamped out. Personally I don't care if someone dives to win a penalty, just as I don't care if someone claims a throw-in that didn't go their way. I just don't get what the fuss is about.

I hate feigning injury though. They all need to grow a ****ing set.
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Agree with this to an extent. Diving is poor form, and shouldn't be encouraged, but it's not as bad as everyone makes out.

I get accused of going down easily occasionally during games (I never dive though), and I figure if I've been fouled it's my right to let the ref know about it by hitting the deck. I remember a couple of World Cups back Miroslav Klose being denied a fair penalty because he heroically stayed on his feet while being fouled.

Feigning injury to waste time/get your opponent a card is however a bane on the sport imo.
 
sledger

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Ausage said:
Agree with this to an extent. Diving is poor form, and shouldn't be encouraged, but it's not as bad as everyone makes out.

I get accused of going down easily occasionally during games (I never dive though), and I figure if I've been fouled it's my right to let the ref know about it by hitting the deck. I remember a couple of World Cups back Miroslav Klose being denied a fair penalty because he heroically stayed on his feet while being fouled.

Feigning injury to waste time/get your opponent a card is however a bane on the sport imo.
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Yeah, this is near enough my thoughts on the issue as well.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

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Don't like diving but I have no problem with players buying poor pieces of defending and goal keeping (i.e. Totti World Cup 2006 against Australia and what Rooney did on the weekend).

Pure amateur dramatics though (example what Eduardo did last week against Celtic) I find hard to accept as being 'part of the game'.
 
Matteh

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Ausage said:
Agree with this to an extent. Diving is poor form, and shouldn't be encouraged, but it's not as bad as everyone makes out.

I get accused of going down easily occasionally during games (I never dive though), and I figure if I've been fouled it's my right to let the ref know about it by hitting the deck. I remember a couple of World Cups back Miroslav Klose being denied a fair penalty because he heroically stayed on his feet while being fouled.

Feigning injury to waste time/get your opponent a card is however a bane on the sport imo.
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As well as talking to the ref to get another player sent off like Lucas did against Bolton. Just makes you a deadset moron for doing it.
 
Ausage

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TT Boy said:
Don't like diving but I have no problem with players buying poor pieces of defending and goal keeping (i.e. Totti World Cup 2006 against Australia and what Rooney did on the weekend).
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It was Materazzi IIRC.

And unfortunately I recall it only too well :cry:
 
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The other thing I don't get the fuss over is waving an imaginary yellow card. There's not a player in the world who hasn't asked the ref, "how isn't that a booking?" after being on the end of a hefty challenge. A language barrier seems to make foreigners in the Premier League the devil incarnate for doing it.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

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Uppercut said:
The other thing I don't get the fuss over is waving an imaginary yellow card. There's not a player in the world who hasn't asked the ref, "how isn't that a booking?" after being on the end of a hefty challenge. A language barrier seems to make foreigners in the Premier League the devil incarnate for doing it.
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By all means if you are Messi and getting kicked pillar-to-post all game because you happen to be too good for them but Lucas wasn't on the receiving end of a hefty challenge. It was soft and debatable whether it was even a foul. Yet, he goes to the ref and asks him to send off a fellow professional for a nothing tackle, something is wrong with that, as is thinking it is acceptable.
 
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