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*Official* Second Test at Lords

Hoggy31

Hoggy31

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Fair to say it's over if we lose even one wicket in the 1st session.

Reckon the tail will get close, will say England by 55.
 
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Dissector

Dissector

International Debutant
If Australia go through the session without losing a wicket they are favourites.
If they lose just a wicket, England has the edge but Australia still has a chance if Johnson plays well.
If England take two or more wickets they will probably win.
 
Matt79

Matt79

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Hoggy31 said:
Fair to say it's over if we lose even one wicket in the 1st session.

Reckon the tail will get close, will say England by 55.
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Yeah, unless Johnson plays the knock of his life. We're on a knife edge, but that's more than we had any right/expectation to be yesterday at lunch.
 
superkingdave

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If I were a neutral, which i'm not, I think i'd be hoping for an England win by not many. If Australia win, I can't see the series extending beyond Edgbaston (wrt the ashes being on the line), but if England I think it will go down to the Oval at 1 all


so yeah lets hope those guardians of neutrality, messry Koertzen and Doctrove, feel the same way :ph34r::laugh:
 
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Burgey

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Dissector said:
If Australia go through the session without losing a wicket they are favourites.
If they lose just a wicket, England has the edge but Australia still has a chance if Johnson plays well.
If England take two or more wickets they will probably win.
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Nah mate, England monumental favourites here. Will be amazing if Australia do this.

They've got some good tail enders of course, but it's a different story batting to win a test than it is to set alead, in the 1st innings or even compared with trying to save it.

It's a massive ask, realistically.
 
Son Of Coco

Son Of Coco

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Burgey said:
Fatigue a factor for the bowlers as well though, especially if one or two are carrying injuries.

Not just physical fatigue, but mental plays a part, for bowlers and batsmen, given what's at stake here.
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Yeah, was going to mention this after reading through the thread. Fatigue and pressure have the potential to play a part in both team's demise.

Personally, I am hoping now we've come this close that these two can get us to within 5 so there's next to nothing for the tail to do. I'm worried it'll be a huge anti-climax if one of them gets out in the first couple of overs.

The posters saying there's only Johnson to come seem to have forgotten that Hauritz isn't terrible with the bat either.
 
Uppercut

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Burgey said:
Nah mate, England monumental favourites here. Will be amazing if Australia do this.

They've got some good tail enders of course, but it's a different story batting to win a test than it is to set alead, in the 1st innings or even compared with trying to save it.

It's a massive ask, realistically.
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I think the 4th-innings-is-more-difficult stuff is pretty overplayed these days. Players generally are far more capable of dealing with the pressure (and fitter) than they used to be.
 
Burgey

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superkingdave said:
If I were a neutral, which i'm not, I think i'd be hoping for an England win by not many. If Australia win, I can't see the series extending beyond Edgbaston (wrt the ashes being on the line), but if England I think it will go down to the Oval at 1 all
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If I was a neutral I'd be wanting an Australian win by 5 wickets with over a session to spare.

But that's just me :).
 
wfdu_ben91

wfdu_ben91

International 12th Man
Dissector said:
If Australia go through the session without losing a wicket they are favourites.
If they lose just a wicket, England has the edge but Australia still has a chance if Johnson plays well.
If England take two or more wickets they will probably win.
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Could care less about winning it, could bat all day and draw it, despite the fact they should've won it and I'll still be stoked. Looks by the way they are batting on replay that they're definately going for the win.
 
superkingdave

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So, err, **** pitch yeah?

Actually it's not great but I don't think with these two teams any pitch is going to be a certain draw. At least this has a bit more pace and bounce than Cardiff, and a quicker outfield.
 
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