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*Official* Second Test at Lords

pup11

International Coach
Clarke would probably be the best Aussie at playing spin. Who'd be the ones from the other teams?

From India I'd nominate Gambhir. He's been excellent against spin for a long time now.
I think AB deVilliers from South Africa is a pretty good player of spin too, he doesn't use his feet against spin, but he has his own tecnique against them, which has proved very succesful so far, though can see him struggling on turning pitches, but then you don't see tracks like too often in test cricket.
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
There isn't much difference mate, Hughes has been as poor in this game, missed Hauirtz in the 1st innings, Johnson might not be unfit like Lee or Clark, but certainly bowled as if he was unfit, which pretty much left us with two bowlers (Siddle, Hilf), but despite that wrapping England up for 425 was a decent effort in the end.

Its really the batting that has cost us the game both at Mohali and now at Lord's.
The other big difference is India at home > England at home. You wouldn't expect much from Haury in the first innings - that's not his role.

Clarke with 63 now the third highest scorer of the match, and highest since day 1 - despite the look of the pitch, these haven't been the easiest conditions to bat him. Which casts more shame on our bowling effort this match.
 
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pup11

International Coach
If these two put on another 100-120, will england begin to worry ???
You mean 200-220 right...

100-120 would only take them somewhere around the 300 run mark, which would still be 220 runs short of the target, England realistically need just one more breakthrough and they could find themselves within touching distance of victory.

Mitch Johnson is still to come, but not sure what sort of mindset he really is in atm, so not expecting anything big from him with the bat.
 

Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
You mean 200-220 right...

100-120 would only take them somewhere around the 300 run mark, which would still be 220 runs short of the target, England realistically need just one more breakthrough and they could find themselves within touching distance of victory.

Mitch Johnson is still to come, but not sure what sort of mindset he really is in atm, so not expecting anything big from him with the bat.
England worry very easily is more the point I am getting at.
 

pup11

International Coach
The other big difference is India at home > England at home. You wouldn't expect much from Haury in the first innings - that's not his role.

Clarke with 63 now the third highest scorer of the match, and highest since day 1 - despite the look of the pitch, these haven't been the easiest conditions to bat him. Which casts more shame on our bowling effort this match.
Horrie's role won't have been picking too many wickets in the 1st innings, but he certainly would have bowled tightly, and eased the workload of the likes of Hilf and Siddle.

The pitch certainly had something in it for the quicks if they bowled a patient line and length as the English bowlers have shown, but unfortunately nobody other than Hilfy did that from the Australian side.
 
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Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
Horrie's role won't have been picking too many wicket in the 1st innings, but he certainly would have bowled tightly, and eased the workload of the likes of Hilf and Siddle.

The pitch certainly had something in it for the quicks if they bowled a patient line and length as the English bowlers have shown, but unfortunately nobody other than Hilfy did that from the Australian side.
Stuart Clark Likes bowling consistent line and length.
 

oitoitoi

State Vice-Captain
That applies to virtually all sides. The skill of being a good bowler is to get the ball to nip around on the majority of occasions. If it doesn't, any bowler will struggle.

England have had a hell of a lot go their way this Test, but Australia have still mostly been ****e and would've lost against said England performance regardless of any of the ill-fortune.
Well the fact that England lost on those mentioned tours would suggest otherwise. Agreed though that Australia have been pretty awful this match.
 

Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
Mitch Johnson is still to come, but not sure what sort of mindset he really is in atm, so not expecting anything big from him with the bat.
Totally agree RE: his mindset, his body language has been poor all series, can't help but think its not just his bowling getting him down.
 

pup11

International Coach
Stuart Clark Likes bowling consistent line and length.
Yeah he does, but they decided to show faith in Siddle instead of Clark, Siddle has been whole-hearted trier to his credit, but he has been inconsistent with his line and lengths, and had Johnson been bowling well then may be Siddle could have gotten away with a few wayward spells, but that hasn't been the case.

Though its not like everything is fine with Clark either, he has made a comeback after an elbow problem, and after his comeback the nip in his bowling has been missing, and its his nip that makes him such a good bowler, and without it he would look pretty pedestrian.
 

Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
Yeah he does, but they decided to show faith in Siddle instead of Clark, Siddle has been whole-hearted trier to his credit, but he has been inconsistent with his line and lengths, and had Johnson been bowling well then may be Siddle could have gotten away with a few wayward spells, but that hasn't been the case.

Though its not like everything is fine with Clark either, he has made a comeback after an elbow problem, and after his comeback the nip in his bowling has been missing, and its his nip that makes him such a good bowler, and without it he would look pretty pedestrian.
Lets hope that clark can find his "nip" in the tour match coming up.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
LOL, called for Broad to come on and bowl his short **** and what does he do? comes on and attempts to bowl line and length, don't think he's tested them out with one short ball yet.
 

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