Atul Sharma

[ret]

@ rivera213 .... are you 100% sure that Atul is not going to be effective?

 

[PhoenixFire]

Er, why are you getting involved, kid?

And there WAS a need for that, I wouldn't let him talk to me like that in the street so why should I let him do it behind the comfort of a keyboard?

Disrespect in turn deserves disrespect.

Err maybe because I'm a mod?

I said it first time, there is no need for personal abuse like that.

 

[Pheobe]

Give the man a chance to fail before writing his obit here.

 

[Pheobe]

Err maybe because I'm a mod?

I said it first time, there is no need for personal abuse like that.

There were a couple of abuses hurled at me by some Andy C in another thread. I had reported it then.

 

[rivera213]

@ rivera213 .... are you 100% sure that Atul is not going to be effective?

Not 100% sure, but I really can't see a guy (even if he bowls at 100mph) who hasn't played any competitive cricket in 7 years making a dent.

Mohammad Sami bowled mid 90mph and absolutely sucked at international level.

That was a genuine bowler, not some Frankenstein experiment.

The irony is, Atul is probably a nice guy. He's just associated with idiots.

Err maybe because I'm a mod?

I said it first time, there is no need for personal abuse like that.

Sorry, I have a problem with people who aren't even allowed to vote "modding" forums.

If I'm disrespeced, I'll do the same. I don't see how rules in real life don't apply to forums.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Sorry, I have a problem with people who aren't even allowed to vote "modding" forums.

If I'm disrespeced, I'll do the same. I don't see how rules in real life don't apply to forums.

By all means carry on what you are doing then if you want to make such a fuss about it, but don't be surprised if you get banned.

 

[GIMH]

there were a couple of abuses hurled at me by some andy c in another thread. I had reported it then.

 

[Simple Ton]

I watched the Sharma video clip and was really impressed. He looked lively in his bowling and pretty accurate to me. I bought Pont's book The Fast Bowler's Bible last year and it has been excellent, and i also went on on ehis his fast bowling courses. Awesome.
So i am positive about this guy and Sharma.

 

[silentstriker]

Sorry, I have a problem with people who aren't even allowed to vote "modding" forums.

If I'm disrespeced, I'll do the same. I don't see how rules in real life don't apply to forums.

A mod gave you a warning, and if you want to keep posting on this site, you should listen. If you have a problem, send us an email.

 

[Simple Ton]

has anyone here seen sharma bowl, has he been on TV or anything?

 

[rivera213]

has anyone here seen sharma bowl, has he been on TV or anything?

Nope.

 

[ret]

Not 100% sure, but I really can't see a guy (even if he bowls at 100mph) who hasn't played any competitive cricket in 7 years making a dent.

The irony is, Atul is probably a nice guy. He's just associated with idiots.

So you are speculating w/o having any clue about him despite team likes RR showing confidence in him! .... Not many are going to be interested in what 'you' [who?] sees!

Give the dude a chance and see how he does! his performance will decide his fate and not any speculations or theories by anyone here

 

[Simple Ton]

Nope.

in india the media are in frenzy about this cricketer cos he has been recommended by chappell who was india head coach and he din't rate sreesanth or munaf. One of the TV companys is doing a program on him and hs coach

 

[rivera213]

So you are speculating w/o having any clue about him despite team likes RR showing confidence in him! .... Not many are going to be interested in what 'you' [who?] sees!

Give the dude a chance and see how he does! his performance will decide his fate and not any speculations or theories by anyone here

The IPL isn't exactly an exclusive tournament. There has to be 7 Indian players and 3 Under-23 players in any particular team meaning you need a very big squad.

If there was no age or nationality limits, he wouldn't be within a million miles of the Royals' squad and neither would the majority of Indian squad members in the IPL.

Even if a bowler like Richard Hadlee took 7 years out of the game, he wouldn't be anywhere near the bowler coming back and that's Hadlee!

It's seriously unrealistic to expect Sharma to do anything, even being a mediocre T20 player.

in india the media are in frenzy about this cricketer cos he has been recommended by chappell who was india head coach and he din't rate sreesanth or munaf. One of the TV companys is doing a program on him and hs coach

India are desperate for a fast bowler, a truly fast bowler. I'm not sure why since every country has a strength and weakness. India are a country who produce quality batsmen and finger spinners. Trying to find the next Bishan Bedi would be better long term for Indian cricket.

I don't think ANYONE really rates Sreesanth of Munaf. They are in consideration for the team because there is nobody else.

RP Singh should be the No.3 seamer and have 2 spinners.

 

[Pheobe]

The IPL isn't exactly an exclusive tournament. There has to be 7 Indian players and 3 Under-23 players in any particular team meaning you need a very big squad.

If there was no age or nationality limits, he wouldn't be within a million miles of the Royals' squad and neither would the majority of Indian squad members in the IPL.

Even if a bowler like Richard Hadlee took 7 years out of the game, he wouldn't be anywhere near the bowler coming back and that's Hadlee!

It's seriously unrealistic to expect Sharma to do anything, even being a mediocre T20 player.

An average IPL squad has about 20 players in total. And to be one of these from a catchment area of about 5 million needs some stuff.

India are desperate for a fast bowler, a truly fast bowler. I'm not sure why since every country has a strength and weakness. India are a country who produce quality batsmen and finger spinners. Trying to find the next Bishan Bedi would be better long term for Indian cricket.

I don't think ANYONE really rates Sreesanth of Munaf. They are in consideration for the team because there is nobody else.

RP Singh should be the No.3 seamer and have 2 spinners.

Sreesanth on the contrary is quite rated as a pace bowler when his head is right. Ishant Sharma and Zaheer Khan is considered to be one of the best new ball pairs in the world right now. India needs express bowlers, but pray, which team does not? England is praying desperately for it's next Flintoff. NZ for it's next Bond. Pakistan for the next Asif without the drugs....

It was true that India were a land of batsmen and spinners some time back. But that trend has gone. And they have started winning overseas and test matches purely on pace bowling strength.

 

[ret]

The IPL isn't exactly an exclusive tournament. There has to be 7 Indian players and 3 Under-23 players in any particular team meaning you need a very big squad.

If there was no age or nationality limits, he wouldn't be within a million miles of the Royals' squad and neither would the majority of Indian squad members in the IPL.

Even if a bowler like Richard Hadlee took 7 years out of the game, he wouldn't be anywhere near the bowler coming back and that's Hadlee!

It's seriously unrealistic to expect Sharma to do anything, even being a mediocre T20 player.

so are you implying that 'anyone' can get in to a IPL squad?

also it has been pointed out that this is NOT abt the usual ways so there is no pt in your saying 'even if Hadlee [type in Marshall, Donald, or whoever] had blah blah'

most ppl know the importance of the abc of bowling, but they want to know if doing xyz can be effective as well .... ofc this does not undermine the usual way but there is no harm in seeing the other way. and you already said that you cannot be 100% sure if Atul will fail so ....

 

[Manee]

If he can throw overarm then already he'd be better than Munaf Patel.

Munaf has learned to do that.

 

[Manee]

I watched the Sharma video clip and was really impressed. He looked lively in his bowling and pretty accurate to me. I bought Pont's book The Fast Bowler's Bible last year and it has been excellent, and i also went on on ehis his fast bowling courses. Awesome.
So i am positive about this guy and Sharma.

Welcome to the forums, hope you stick around.

 

[Manee]

None of the bowlers of the 70's, 80's and even into the 90's did any of that type of training.

Gym work is fine, but the best way to develop the muscles you need for bowling is to actually bowl.

And the difference between javelin throwers and bowlers is that strength is essential to throwing a javelin, it isn't necessarily important to bowling (past being fit).

Shaun Tait is very much the exception to the rule. Guys like Brett Lee, Shane Bond, Dale Steyn aren't huge men but have bowled 150kph+.

They did not do that training, but then they were extremely talented. They did not learn how to bowl fast. The mere fact that it has been seen as impossible to learn pace shows how difficult it is, or at least how you must break current trends to do so.

Why is strength not important to bowling? What reasoning can you use to support that assessment. The mere fact that bowlers are not body builders is because a degree of flexibility is crucial to the bowling action, therefore the skinnier people tend to have a good action or rather the physical ability to achieve it. You wouldn't call Lee or Akhtar weak though, would you?

 

[Gowza]

would be really interesting to hear what shane watson has to say about him.