Symonds sent home

[Precambrian]

Why does India still pick Harby?

Do they condone him hitting a fellow cricketer OR do they want to win?

And please dont reply with any bs about serving a penalty because it should've been a minimum of 2 years, probably closer to 5 and he would've been drummed out of virtually any club in the world for it

Why do you compare Roy's case with Harby's? Harby slapped Sree for something uncharitable uttered by Sree, both are fools. The incident happened off the field. And they settled the matter between themselves, Sree withdrew his complaint, and Harby got docked his IPL million and an ODI series ban. Fair enough. And Harby has hardly been in the news since then for wrong reasons.

Symonds on the other hand has gone from bad to worse in terms of misdemeanour.

Hardly comparable.

 

[Precambrian]

Haha, why should CA, James Sutherland and Hilditch be blamed for Symonds acting like a **** again? Clearly they believed the issues were sorted - obviously Symonds is a bigger **** than we all thought.

Have you ever expected an Australian player to take responsibility for their own actions, pup? I have the feeling the answer is no.

Yeah, bull **** argument to vindicate CA in the matter. Symonds, FFS, is 33 and should have known how to manage his own life. Or otherwise suffer the consequences.

 

[pasag]

Even as one of Symonds biggest fans (as a cricketer) I fail to see any reason he shouldn't be suspended for bringing CA and the game into disrepute. He publicly called a player from another country a 'lump of ****' and it was completely unprovoked.

 

[social]

Haha, why should CA, James Sutherland and Hilditch be blamed for Symonds acting like a **** again? Clearly they believed the issues were sorted - obviously Symonds is a bigger **** than we all thought.

Have you ever expected an Australian player to take responsibility for their own actions, pup? I have the feeling the answer is no.

Should adopt the All Black strategy - deny everything and restrict distribution of incriminating evidence

But hey, O'Drriscoll wasnt crippled so no harm, no foul

 

[pup11]

Haha, why should CA, James Sutherland and Hilditch be blamed for Symonds acting like a **** again? Clearly they believed the issues were sorted - obviously Symonds is a bigger **** than we all thought.

Have you ever expected an Australian player to take responsibility for their own actions, pup? I have the feeling the answer is no.

Haha, not defending what Symonds did or has done for even a second, but i think by now it should have been clear that expecting a change in Symonds' behaviour is a bit unrealistic, and the guys who are working in close quarters with Symonds should know that better than anyone else, his comeback was clearly more an act of desperation more than anything else after defeat in India, even from pure cricketing perspective his domestic form clearly didn't merit a comeback, and its pretty hard to believe that Symonds worked over his issues of drinking, being an arrogant ****, in just a few months by paying a few visits to a phyciatrist, who even warned CA that all is not well with Symonds, but clearly that didn't matter to them.

 

[Precambrian]

Even as one of Symonds biggest fans (as a cricketer) I fail to see any reason he shouldn't be suspended for bringing CA and the game into disrepute. He publicly called a player from another country a 'lump of ****' and it was completely unprovoked.

Best post.

 

[pup11]

Even as one of Symonds biggest fans (as a cricketer) I fail to see any reason he shouldn't be suspended for bringing CA and the game into disrepute. He publicly called a player from another country a 'lump of ****' and it was completely unprovoked.

I think suspension is not gonna change anything, after all that has happened to him already, if he still hasn't understood what's right for him, then don't thing another suspension would make him a better individual either, i think at the age 33 he still might have another 3 or 4 years of cricket left in him, but if those years are equally controversy ridden like the previous years have been, then Australia are much better off moving on and looking at other options.

 

[pasag]

I think suspension is not gonna change anything, after all that has happened to him already, if he still hasn't understood what's right for him, then don't thing another suspension would make him a better individual either, i think at the age 33 he still might have another 3 or 4 years of cricket left in him, but if those years are equally controversy ridden like the previous years have been, then Australia are much better off moving on and looking at other options.

It's clearly not about him though. It's about preserving some form of integrity of cricket in Australia whilst showing the rest of the players both here and overseas that CA don't tolerate dragging the sport through the mud like this.

 

[social]

Why do you compare Roy's case with Harby's? Harby slapped Sree for something uncharitable uttered by Sree, both are fools. The incident happened off the field. And they settled the matter between themselves, Sree withdrew his complaint, and Harby got docked his IPL million and an ODI series ban. Fair enough. And Harby has hardly been in the news since then for wrong reasons.

Symonds on the other hand has gone from bad to worse in terms of misdemeanour.

Hardly comparable.

Harby has the worst disciplinary record amongst active players (and it almost surfaces when under pressure - something that hasn't happened of late)

Harby hit another player on the field - right up there with the worst offences in the game and of itself, sets him worlds apart from Symonds

I could be wrong but I cant think of any occasion where Symonds has been fined for on-field discretions

In short, Harby is infinitely worse than Symonds have ever dreamt of being

He is picked because the Indian team consider his contribution to winning more important than discipline

Obviously, you'd like Oz to apply a different set of rules to Symonds

That's fine but dont get upset when people call it for what it is - HYPOCRISY

 

[social]

It's clearly not about him though. It's about preserving some form of integrity of cricket in Australia whilst showing the rest of the players both here and overseas that CA don't tolerate dragging the sport through the mud like this.

The rest of the world doesnt consider that Oz cricket has any integrity, so it's a bit @#$$#@! late for that!

There has obviously been some issue within the team re Symonds and they've used any excuse

 

[pasag]

The rest of the world doesnt consider that Oz cricket has any integrity, so it's a bit @#$$#@! late for that!

There has obviously been some issue within the team re Symonds and they've used any excuse

What's your point mate?

a) Just because action hasn't been taken in the past and Australian cricket has a pretty low standing within the cricketing community doesn't mean we can't do things to fix that in the future.

b) Any issues people or fellow cricketers have had regarding Symonds in the past is irrelevant here. Looking at the case in isolation and without any past baggage he still deserves to be charged for his comments here.

 

[pup11]

It's clearly not about him though. It's about preserving some form of integrity of cricket in Australia whilst showing the rest of the players both here and overseas that CA don't tolerate dragging the sport through the mud like this.

I am talking about banning him for life, his conduct is not likely to improve and finally something's gotta give, antics like these from Symonds are getting fairly too repetitive to be forgiven anymore, he clearly doesn't care about suspensions, because if he did, he won't act like a complete **** when he was on AIR.

 

[honestbharani]

Harby has the worst disciplinary record amongst active players (and it almost surfaces when under pressure - something that hasn't happened of late)

Harby hit another player on the field - right up there with the worst offences in the game and of itself, sets him worlds apart from Symonds

I could be wrong but I cant think of any occasion where Symonds has been fined for on-field discretions

In short, Harby is infinitely worse than Symonds have ever dreamt of being

He is picked because the Indian team consider his contribution to winning more important than discipline

Obviously, you'd like Oz to apply a different set of rules to Symonds

That's fine but dont get upset when people call it for what it is - HYPOCRISY

Lol.. Harby is much worse than Symonds ever dreamed of being????????????/

 

[pasag]

I am talking about banning him for life, his conduct is not likely to improve and finally something's gotta give, antics like these from Symonds are getting fairly too repetitive to be forgiven anymore, he clearly doesn't care about suspensions, because if he did, he won't act like a complete **** when he was on AIR.

Banning him for life or selectors deciding to permanently overlook him? Two totally different things of course.

 

[pup11]

What's your point mate?

a) Just because action hasn't been taken in the past and Australian cricket has a pretty low standing within the cricketing community doesn't mean we can't do things to fix that in the future.

b) Any issues people or fellow cricketers have had regarding Symonds in the past is irrelevant here. Looking at the case in isolation and without any past baggage he still deserves to be charged for his comments here.

I don't think any other player than Symonds has been such a pain in the arse for CA and its authorities, likes of Warne and Mark Waugh were difficult to handle, but they never hopeless to the extent of Symonds, he has been punished enough times, but he clearly isn't learning, so now CA needs to decide whether they ignore him for good (which is what i think they should do), or put up with his indiscpline just because he is a good player, i think CA pretty much has chosen the later option by hurrying back Symonds into the team after the Indian tour.

The rest of the world doesnt consider that Oz cricket has any integrity, so it's a bit @#$$#@! late for that!

There has obviously been some issue within the team re Symonds and they've used any excuse

I think its a lame argument that Symonds is isolated and all that, Symonds' conduct has been such that even his team-mates who have been supportive of him for all this while, might have had enough of him, so i am not surprised at all if they don't want him back, and Symonds cannot blame anybody but himself for this, because it him and only him who has brought this upon himself.

 

[pup11]

Banning him for life or selectors deciding to permanently overlook him? Two totally different things of course.

Yeah, and they can go whichever way they want, as long as it keeps Symonds out of the Australian side.

 

[pup11]

Harby has the worst disciplinary record amongst active players (and it almost surfaces when under pressure - something that hasn't happened of late)

Harby hit another player on the field - right up there with the worst offences in the game and of itself, sets him worlds apart from Symonds

I could be wrong but I cant think of any occasion where Symonds has been fined for on-field discretions

In short, Harby is infinitely worse than Symonds have ever dreamt of being

He is picked because the Indian team consider his contribution to winning more important than discipline

Obviously, you'd like Oz to apply a different set of rules to Symonds

That's fine but dont get upset when people call it for what it is - HYPOCRISY

Lol.. Harby is much worse than Symonds ever dreamed of being????????????/

I really don't get it, i mean how can anybody defend either Symonds or Harbhjan, they both are grade "A" ****s AFAIC, really i don't think a debate over who the bigger **** is should really matter.

 

[social]

I don't think any other player than Symonds has been such a pain in the arse for CA and its authorities, likes of Warne and Mark Waugh were difficult to handle, but they never hopeless to the extent of Symonds, he has been punished enough times, but he clearly isn't learning, so now CA needs to decide whether they ignore him for good (which is what i think they should do), or put up with his indiscpline just because he is a good player, i think CA pretty much has chosen the later option by hurrying back Symonds into the team after the Indian tour.



I think its a lame argument that Symonds is isolated and all that, Symonds' conduct has been such that even his team-mates who have been supportive of him for all this while, might have had enough of him, so i am not surprised at all if they don't want him back, and Symonds cannot blame anybody but himself for this, because it him and only him who has brought this upon himself.

Shane Warne took drugs and, at best, took money from a bookie for a weather report

His life is no more than a farce and he was simply a disgrace to the game

The difference between he and Symonds is that Warne was seen as being irreplaceable so now we see people, in a PC environment, getting up on their high horse and wanting to see Symonds axed for acts no more serious than have been committed hundreds of times before

 

[Redbacks]

So **** the IPL?

Symo will have to choose between legacy and $$$. Either way it's better he makes a decision soon, and doesn't continue to act like a tool.

 

[Smudge]

Should adopt the All Black strategy - deny everything and restrict distribution of incriminating evidence

But hey, O'Drriscoll wasnt crippled so no harm, no foul

Haha, you've lost the plot. I can't believe you hold directorships in a lemonade stand, let alone supposedly in a company of 4,000 people. How on earth can you compare an onfield incident (which, yes, I agree, was ugly), with the continual disgraceful off-field behaviour of a ****ing oaf from Queensland? Are you trying to shift the goalposts because you're getting butt****ed from every angle by 95 percent of posters on this thread (other than Fanboy11 who would stand by an Australian player even if they followed Steve Randell into the world of kiddy-fiddling)?