You know what really grinds my sporting gears?

[Langeveldt]

It's the absolute lack of a personality that galls me. He is the English Tiger Woods; forced by an overbearing parent into an obsessive dedication into his sport since he could crawl at the expense of any personal development. His nationality is his only redeeming feature.

Not popular with the other drivers either by all accounts.

Jesus christ.. England gets a champion, someone who is the best in the world at what he does, and everyone is still whingeing.. It's like success is some sort of a problem up there.. What are the Olympics going to be like? "Oh sorry we actually don't like being very good so we've made it half arsed" is what I can imagine happening

If you want a bland tosser who makes me want to end lives, look no further than Andy Murray.. I dont care if he was born with a tennis racquet attached, he's still a ****...

 

[Jamee999]

Agree with Para 1, Disagree with Para 2.

 

[grecian]

Don't like F1 much, so don't like him much, sorry.......

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Agree with Para 1, Disagree with Para 2.

Wonderful example of contradiction, for mine.

(Well, ok, apart from Murray being a Scot.)

 

[Uppercut]

Jesus christ.. England gets a champion, someone who is the best in the world at what he does, and everyone is still whingeing.. It's like success is some sort of a problem up there.. What are the Olympics going to be like? "Oh sorry we actually don't like being very good so we've made it half arsed" is what I can imagine happening

If you want a bland tosser who makes me want to end lives, look no further than Andy Murray.. I dont care if he was born with a tennis racquet attached, he's still a ****...

The Murray hate is much more baffling. He's bloody good, and a perfectly nice guy in interviews and the like, but he doesn't look happy enough when he's playing tennis so he's out.

 

[99*]

Pretty hard to kill another driver when your 10+ secs in front

 

[luffy]

Christiano Ronaldo.

Don't give a **** if the **** crashed his ****ing car.

Tbh.

Like, get over it and start discussing how much of a tosser the bloke really is.

****.

 

[GIMH]

The Murray hate is much more baffling. He's bloody good, and a perfectly nice guy in interviews and the like, but he doesn't look happy enough when he's playing tennis so he's out.

It's more that he hates the English

 

[Uppercut]

It's more that he hates the English

Yeah, WAG

 

[Langeveldt]

Yeah, WAG

He just reminds me of how I used to be when I played cricket.. Over rated, petulant, moody, bad hair, the works..

 

[PhoenixFire]

Don't get the Hamilton hate. I think we could take a leaf from the Aussie's book when itcomes to sporting personalities; No matter how much of a **** they are, if they are good enough, then they are loved. Examples would be Campese and Symonds, two total pricks but (I assume, I may be wrong, obv) both well liked by the Aussie public, due to being pretty damn good at their respective sports.

Personally, I couldn't give a flying **** what sort of person Hamilton is behind closed doors, he is a brilliant F1 driver, nobody can deny that, and I'll love him for it.

 

[Jamee999]

If anything, Murray is under-rated, imo.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Indeed. He has just beaten Federer and Nadal within the space of 2/3 days a few weeks ago, WAG.

 

[Langeveldt]

Don't get the Hamilton hate. I think we could take a leaf from the Aussie's book when itcomes to sporting personalities; No matter how much of a **** they are, if they are good enough, then they are loved. Examples would be Campese and Symonds, two total pricks but (I assume, I may be wrong, obv) both well liked by the Aussie public, due to being pretty damn good at their respective sports.

Personally, I couldn't give a flying **** what sort of person Hamilton is behind closed doors, he is a brilliant F1 driver, nobody can deny that, and I'll love him for it.

what he said

 

[pasag]

Don't get the Hamilton hate. I think we could take a leaf from the Aussie's book when itcomes to sporting personalities; No matter how much of a **** they are, if they are good enough, then they are loved. Examples would be Campese and Symonds, two total pricks but (I assume, I may be wrong, obv) both well liked by the Aussie public, due to being pretty damn good at their respective sports.

Personally, I couldn't give a flying **** what sort of person Hamilton is behind closed doors, he is a brilliant F1 driver, nobody can deny that, and I'll love him for it.

Nah, Symonds isn't really hated because he hasn't done much wrong. A few things here and there that get blown up, but for the most part he doesn't say very much and you certainly don't see him endlessly in the media with a stupid comment or another idiotic incident (just occasionally). Guys like Hewitt on the other hand we do hate and he is a tool, despite winning Wimbeldon etc.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Jesus christ.. England gets a champion, someone who is the best in the world at what he does, and everyone is still whingeing.. It's like success is some sort of a problem up there.. What are the Olympics going to be like? "Oh sorry we actually don't like being very good so we've made it half arsed" is what I can imagine happening

If you want a bland tosser who makes me want to end lives, look no further than Andy Murray.. I dont care if he was born with a tennis racquet attached, he's still a ****...

I'm more than happy for England to get champions and pretty pleased for Britain too, as it goes. But there's nothing to Hamilton, personality wise. I'd rather my sportsmen have some kind of personality quirks to empathise with, short of being a complete ****. Couldn't be happier for Chris Hoy or Bradley Wiggins, for instance. Both good at what they do and know it, but haven't ****ed off to a tax haven or shacked up with some sleb slapper.

Murray might be a mardy arsed little git at times, but we at least know that much about him.

Don't get the Hamilton hate. I think we could take a leaf from the Aussie's book when itcomes to sporting personalities; No matter how much of a **** they are, if they are good enough, then they are loved. Examples would be Campese and Symonds, two total pricks but (I assume, I may be wrong, obv) both well liked by the Aussie public, due to being pretty damn good at their respective sports.

Personally, I couldn't give a flying **** what sort of person Hamilton is behind closed doors, he is a brilliant F1 driver, nobody can deny that, and I'll love him for it.

See what saggers said. Aussies aren't so one-eyed as to immediately love anything just because it wears green and gold. Neil Harvey, for instance, as great a player as he was is pretty much universally regarded as a curmudgeonly old git, because that's what he's turned into.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Nah, Symonds isn't really hated because he hasn't done much wrong. A few things here and there that get blown up, but for the most part he doesn't say very much and you certainly don't see him endlessly in the media with a stupid comment or another idiotic incident (just occasionally). Guys like Hewitt on the other hand we do hate and he is a tool, despite winning Wimbeldon etc.

I didn't say Symonds was hated

Or am I misunderstanding you?

 

[grecian]

It's more that he hates the English

Don't care much about that, just think he's a bit surly. probably a generational thing. If I was younger I'd of probably loved him, MacEnroe one of my fave sportsman from my youth.

He is an incredible tennis player though, that match he beat Nadal in recently had some thrilling rallies in it.

Hamilton seems much more to hate England, IMHO, by becoming a tax exile, so I don't think the patriotism card can be played at all, because of that. It's certainly enough combined with not enjoying the sport, for me not to like him, anyway.

 

[cpr]

Hamilton. nah.


Dislike him because of his attitude and his arrogance.

Remember the whole rant from his father when he won the title 'Everyone is against him, we had to struggle and sacrifice so much to get him here'. Hands up which other drivers been on the books of a major F1 team since the age of 13? Thats whats set me off the most about him (not that i liked him before)

Basically, he's been told since the age of 13 he's the future of F1, he's had a world of training, McLaren have been geared towards him getting in the drivers seat. That makes you world champion, but it doesnt make you the best driver, and thats what Hamilton fails to distinguish. Firstly, hand any other driver a McLaren and they'll be world champion too if there given the same level of backing by McLaren that Hamilton has had. He's not outperformed everyone by pure skill, its at least 75% down to being in the better car (will give him his dues in regard to some supurb overtakes, but again, would he have tried that in a car that couldnt pull away as quick?)

Lets take his first season, he's a rookie. Yes a very talented one in the best car in the field, but still, has alot to learn. McLaren have brought in Alonso, 2 time champion in the unfashionable Renault, a worthy driver to learn from. The attitude of Hamilton towards Alonso (aided by McLaren's clear bias towards Hamilton) was utter shocking. absolute smacked of pettyness and arrogance (not least in covering his own arse at his teammates expense during the data leak investigations)

So season 2, proudly going on about how great he is and how he'll be champion. Give me that car and i'd bloody win the title (and probably wouldnt need someone else's **** up on tyres on the last lap), then the whole 'We've had such a difficult journey to get here' toss afterwards..... I'm sure the other drivers fighting to be recognised through karting, F3000 and multiple other series must've thought having a Ron Dennis sugerdaddy is so tough.


Thats the problem with Hamilton, he seems to think he's proved he is the greatest ever, when he's been handed all his success on a plate by his team. Like to see him go to Renault next season and take a good couple of wins in an uncompetative car like Alonso did, then i'd consider the whole great driver speech. He's a good driver yes, but one who needs to prove himself by racing against other drivers, not just an out of sorts Ferrari team.

 

[GIMH]

Hmmm, a lot of people I know thought "**** you" to Murray when he played in a Paraguay shirt that time. A sort of, if you hate the English then we won't support you mentality. I dunno, I can't say I take pleasure in his defeats, he has a lot of admirable sporting qualities, quite like the guy. Was more speaking for others than myself.