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*Official* English Football Season 2008-2009

Barney Rubble

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roseboy64 said:
I'm simply pointing out that you're underrating Barton. On the occasion that he's fit and has a run of games he's easily a quality midfielder. Still young enough that if he runs into no more problems he'd probably end up running the midfield for Portsmouth. HIs development's been stunted but he could very easily become world class within one-two years. That's why managers still shell out money for him. He's quality and you're not going to get that as easily as you've implied.
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Don't think he is much good tbh. "Troubled souls" are always overrated because when people look at their peak and think they'd play there all the time if it weren't for their inherent stupidity. Barton's had about one good season and has been largely inconsistent apart from that.

Strangely, everyone seems to blame his poor form on the fact that he's a ****ing thug and think that if someone could make him not-a-thug he'd be good all the time. Stan Collymore was the same if you replace "thug" with "airhead". Scott Parker doesn't get the liberty to blame his poor performances on off-field troubles so people see them for what they are.
 
grecian

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Uppercut said:
Don't think he is much good tbh. "Troubled souls" are always overrated because when people look at their peak and think they'd play there all the time if it weren't for their inherent stupidity. Barton's had about one good season and has been largely inconsistent apart from that.

Strangely, everyone seems to blame his poor form on the fact that he's a ****ing thug and think that if someone could make him not-a-thug he'd be good all the time. Stan Collymore was the same if you replace "thug" with "airhead". Scott Parker doesn't get the liberty to blame his poor performances on off-field troubles so people see them for what they are.
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Yeah agree with this, the guys nowt special, IMHO. It's just like the excuses made for Bowyer, everyone saying what a great player he could of been without his troubles, yet now he's calmed down he's just a West Ham reserve.
 
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grecian said:
Yeah agree with this, the guys nowt special, IMHO. It's just like the excuses made for Bowyer, everyone saying what a great player he could of been without his troubles, yet now he's calmed down he's just a West Ham reserve.
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Bowyer, i knew there was another example that i couldn't quite put a name to.
 
Barney Rubble

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Uppercut said:
Don't think he is much good tbh. "Troubled souls" are always overrated because when people look at their peak and think they'd play there all the time if it weren't for their inherent stupidity. Barton's had about one good season and has been largely inconsistent apart from that.

Strangely, everyone seems to blame his poor form on the fact that he's a ****ing thug and think that if someone could make him not-a-thug he'd be good all the time. Stan Collymore was the same if you replace "thug" with "airhead". Scott Parker doesn't get the liberty to blame his poor performances on off-field troubles so people see them for what they are.
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grecian said:
Yeah agree with this, the guys nowt special, IMHO. It's just like the excuses made for Bowyer, everyone saying what a great player he could of been without his troubles, yet now he's calmed down he's just a West Ham reserve.
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Bowyer, i knew there was another example that i couldn't quite put a name to.
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Thank you guys, for backing up my point. Joey Barton - not that good.
 
roseboy64

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I'm not basing this one on season worth of watching him. Whenever he's had a decent run in the team and he's in no trouble he performs well. Then he gets injured or does something stupid. Has happened enough times to surely indicate he's got bucketloads of potential.
 
Barney Rubble

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roseboy64 said:
I'm not basing this one on season worth of watching him. Whenever he's had a decent run in the team and he's in no trouble he performs well. Then he gets injured or does something stupid. Has happened enough times to surely indicate he's got bucketloads of potential.
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By the same logic, he's wasted enough second chances to show that he's too much of a risk for any top-flight manager. Every single time he's been given a second chance he claims that he's changed for the better, and yet every single time he goes out and does something stupid. He does deserve another chance to get things right, as everyone does, but any top-flight manager willing to spend millions to give him that chance would be a moron.
 
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Yeah they would but I think that Mike Ashley wants rid of him (was one of the reasons for the row with Keegan) so if Portsmouth could get him for less 3 million then i'd say he would be worth it. Any more than that and I probably agree with you.
 
GIMH

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Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo has walked away unscathed despite writing off his Ferrari in a spectacular car crash near Manchester airport.
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ah, better luck next time :ph34r:
 
superkingdave

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Mashed it up proper though, wasn't over the limit (well he was on the way to training) but i reckon he was probably over the speed limit(just imo from seein the car and the damage to the road etc), but unless witnesses come forward nowt will happen
 
Johnners

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superkingdave said:
Mashed it up proper though, wasn't over the limit (well he was on the way to training) but i reckon he was probably over the speed limit(just imo from seein the car and the damage to the road etc), but unless witnesses come forward nowt will happen
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Was my first reaction. That being said, if the speed limit was 60mph (assuming it may have been less?) and a tyre burst which caused him to hit the wall, I wouldn't expect any less damage (thats purely based on the pictures).
 
superkingdave

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The speed limit there is 60, but all of the 4 tires appear to be ok (there is a separate picture floating about on the net which shows the wheel that came off and the tyre looks okay on that)
 
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