Matt79
Hall of Fame Member
Jaques and probably Hughes by now ahead of Marsh for the test team. Katich miles and miles and miles ahead of Marsh.
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Should Matthew Hayden retire?
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inbox24
International Debutant
Sudden Infant Death Syndrome
From Wiki:
"Sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) is a syndrome marked by the symptoms of sudden and unexplained death of an apparently healthy infant aged one month to one year. The term cot death is often used in the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand, while crib death is sometimes used in North America."
Maybe not to punter smells personally, but to babies.
pup11
International Coach
You talking about Pete Siddle, because i don't think Marsh' nick is Sids...?
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
It would have been a braver piece if it was written 12 months ago. Not that I disagree with it though.
Mister Wright
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Unless he hits 3 double centuries between now and the South African tour he's not going to get a recall at his age.
Matt79
Hall of Fame Member
Agreed. Once he was dumped, he'd need to do something absolutely spectacular AND Hughes and Jaques would both have to spectacularly fail for him to have any prospect of a return.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Nah, he shouldn't retire. I want him to keep playing.
Evermind
International Debutant
Why would you agree with that godawful article? It seems to imply that Hayden is a flat-track bully and a minnow-basher. A guy with 30 centuries in 180 innings to his name? Why can't everyone do that, if it's so bloody easy?
He may be out of form - nothing too much worse than what Dravid's going through - but it's as absurd to imply that he's a mediocre player as it would be to imply that Dravid is one.
The only difference is that India are winning, while Australia are losing. Fewer questions are asked of you if your team starts winning.
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, it is somewhat telling that every time Hayden hits a bad run of form people start up with the "see! told you! flat track bully!" stuff, but when Dravid can hardly get it off the square he's just having mental issues or whatever. They're both amazing batsmen having a terrible run that may well end their careers. Or maybe not, they've both been out of form in the past as well.
I don't see how Hayden's poor form means that he is actually terrible and the last 8 years means nothing, but Dravid's poor form is just a blemish.
I don't see how Hayden's poor form means that he is actually terrible and the last 8 years means nothing, but Dravid's poor form is just a blemish.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Yea many people on this forum & worldwide have the ideological view that Hayden is a "flat-track bully". His slump here is just perfect for many to come down hard on him.
When he retires though his impact at the top-order will be missed just as heavily as Warne, McGrath & Gilchirst.
When he retires though his impact at the top-order will be missed just as heavily as Warne, McGrath & Gilchirst.
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This. The response has been fairly predictable, though.
mavric41
State Vice-Captain
Matthew Hayden should NOT retire.
The poor bugger keeps getting out to very poor umpiring decisions. He got at least three in India and one in Perth and two run outs.
All he needs is some time in the middle. In the old days he would have played tour matches, club matches and shield matches to have a chance to find some form. Since he came back from injury he has only played one tour match and then eight tests in a row. In my opinion it has only been in this last match that he appeared to be out of form.
I hope the selectors do not make a rash decision and relent to the media pressure for one test match and drop Hayden. After this there are ten one day matches in which he can find some form.
He has bounced back in the past and he can do it again.
The poor bugger keeps getting out to very poor umpiring decisions. He got at least three in India and one in Perth and two run outs.
All he needs is some time in the middle. In the old days he would have played tour matches, club matches and shield matches to have a chance to find some form. Since he came back from injury he has only played one tour match and then eight tests in a row. In my opinion it has only been in this last match that he appeared to be out of form.
I hope the selectors do not make a rash decision and relent to the media pressure for one test match and drop Hayden. After this there are ten one day matches in which he can find some form.
He has bounced back in the past and he can do it again.
Dusty Lee
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I think it is time for him to move on. Australia needs to rebuild now more than ever. What would be ideal would be to see him come out and announce his retirement before the Sydney test and let the Aussie team and the Sydney crowd give him the send off he has earnt. But may he long be remembered as a true champion for Australian and world cricket.
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Hayden's pretty much symbolises Australia in his ways of success, to some people. Succeeded for so long that once he slips up everybody takes a turn of kicking him while he's down.
Fair enough, he hasn't scored runs, but he's looked good. He IS allowed to have a bad year. He is averaging 32 this year which is actually not that horrific considering how many 0s and single digit scores he has in there.
I really hope he comes up with something big in the next Test. He deserves it. He has not been playing this badly to get a run like this.
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
DWTA
His case is that "it worked when we dropped Healy and M Waugh" but we had Gilchrist to replace Healy with (and he'd been in the ODI side for a while) and ample replacements who had made a lot of runs against better quality domestic bowlers for longer than any Hayden replacements we have now.
Also, Hayden is one of the few senior players left in the team. Losing him will hurt Australia more than the extra 20 runs per game is costing us at the moment. Experienced players lift the newer players into doing their roles better.
We will have to rebuild our team in the future, but now is not the time to blood a new batsman in place of Hayden.