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HeathDavisSpeed
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I enjoy 20:20 cricket. This match, however, has been appalling from start to finish. The previous match at Eden Park was much more satisfying, with Gayle's batting and Vettori's bowling (pre Super Over) being superlative.
This has been a poor standard of backyard cricket.
This has been a poor standard of backyard cricket.
Bahnz
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No it's not Nathan Astle pace. He bowled around 110 kmh. And yes if you're bowling faster that can make you more effective but only if you're bowling well. To be perfectly honest, I'd always prefer having Franklin and Mills opening as opposed to Franklin and Gillespie.I dont understand why everyone else doesnt. Ive always considered pace just another weapon of bolwers. You can swing the ball, seam the ball, or bowl fast and thats another way of getting the batsman out. Beating them for pace. Making them play a shot but not quite be there in time.
Saying pace doesnt matter is like saying swing doesnt matter, or seaming the ball doesnt matter.
also, IMO, pace makes everything else a bit more effective. Swinging the ball at 140kph is going to be more effective than swinging it at 125kph. As with seaming the ball.
Thats not to say a faster bowler is better, or you need someone at 150kph. I just think 135-140 is a good pace for test bowlers and if NZ doesnt have that extra weapon then we are lacking something in our bowling. My comments about speed were regarding the last test match where both our opening bowlers were around 125kph. That was too slow IMO. Thats Nathan Astle pace.
Preparing for barrage of responses.
So yes, pace is just another weapon. The problem is we don't have anyone who can bowl well with pace, and until we find someone who can there's no point in selecting people who bowl around the 140 kmh mark (which isn't fast enough to beat the bat in most cases anyway).
Flem274*
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If we selected 140+ bowlers only, then out of a line up of O'Brien, Gilles-pie-thrower, Bennet, McClennaghan and possibly Sherlock, O'Brien would take all ten wickets with the possibility of McClennaghan getting one.
95% of our current 140+ bowling stocks have no hope, end of discussion.
95% of our current 140+ bowling stocks have no hope, end of discussion.
Bahnz
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Bits I liked in todays play:
Ewen Thompson bowling 5 slower balls in his first over and picking up Gayle
Jimmy showing his ability to massacre the spinners.
Southee showing good pace and swing.
BFJ going to town.
Sarwan finally showing some touch.
Bits I didn't like:
Middle order collapses. We just can't seem to avoid them in 20:20's, even when we're doing well.
The Windies catching and fielding. Allowed what would've been another competitive total to balloon out to a massive one.
Ewen Thompson getting to only face one ball (his only one in international cricket?) with the bat.
Ewen Thompson bowling 5 slower balls in his first over and picking up Gayle
Jimmy showing his ability to massacre the spinners.
Southee showing good pace and swing.
BFJ going to town.
Sarwan finally showing some touch.
Bits I didn't like:
Middle order collapses. We just can't seem to avoid them in 20:20's, even when we're doing well.
The Windies catching and fielding. Allowed what would've been another competitive total to balloon out to a massive one.
Ewen Thompson getting to only face one ball (his only one in international cricket?) with the bat.
Zinzan
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Speaking a Ewen Thompson, anyone know who that hot chick was that was giving him a drink on the boundary and whether she's involved with the team as a trainer or something?
Oh, she was hot. Yes indeedy do.
She was at their training before the Eden Park T20. I assume she's a physio. The only thing I saw her do was fetch a pair of scissors for McCullum.
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The radio commentators said she was the physio, "Katie".
Flem274*
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He should have been on the England tour, but Flynn and Marshall got in ahead of him. He's not in form though atm, so I wouldn't pick him now.
Good to see Broom in the ODI squad, puts pressure on How and Flynn.
Flem274*
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Bet she gets a lot of work.
Smudge
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