Procter off ICC Match-Referee panel?

[silentstriker]

You seem to forget that turning the microphones way up has already been tried and abandoned before the completion of the test because Gilchrist kept making mention of sponsors not affiliated with the either of the nations involved or the broadcaster

Next idea, please

I know that incident. So what? He did it so we'd stop turning the volume up. Keep it on, and let him say whatever. When players realize it's here to stay regardless of what they say, it'll stop.

 

[Precambrian]

Just where did I say that everyone swear?

And just where is your evidence that , apart from Australia, nobody in cricket likes being sworn at?

And finally, how do you propose eradicating bad language from the game?

Multi-lingual umps, individually miked up players and a gang of language nazis off field, I suppose

Oh yeah, so what else were you referring by quoting those gems of quotes from a few players?

As to only Australians like being sworn at, I am probably wrong, maybe I should say a part of them. Not all Australians would like to. Only sado-maschosits (Sorry if spelled wrongly) may probably find pleasure in hearing swearing.

Eradicating bad language is simple. Make the laws tight and implement them tighter. Since, the area around the pitch is already miked, there shouldnt be a problem detecting bad words, if a complaint is made. More than that, player education is what is required. That's for each team to implement.

 

[social]

I know that incident. So what? He did it so we'd stop turning the volume up. Keep it on, and let him say whatever. When players realize it's here to stay regardless of what they say, it'll stop.

Why?

Players are on the field for 6+ hours per day and if they figure that they're getting a few laughs out of it, then chances are that the advertisers will get upset by it before they get bored

 

[social]

Oh yeah, so what else were you referring by quoting those gems of quotes from a few players?

As to only Australians like being sworn at, I am probably wrong, maybe I should say a part of them. Not all Australians would like to. Only sado-maschosits (Sorry if spelled wrongly) may probably find pleasure in hearing swearing.

Eradicating bad language is simple. Make the laws tight and implement them tighter. Since, the area around the pitch is already miked, there shouldnt be a problem detecting bad words, if a complaint is made. More than that, player education is what is required. That's for each team to implement.

You're not related to Senator McCarthy by any chance?

 

[Precambrian]

You're not related to Senator McCarthy by any chance?

No, but are you?

Given your complete refusal to come to terms with the changing face of the globe.

 

[social]

No, but are you?

Given your complete refusal to come to terms with the changing face of the globe.

You mean the one where Indian players, and not Australians, are the ones being fined for abusive language

 

[SJS]

There was a time when the odd barracker in the crowd would be abusive. People cringed at it and if it was loud enough to be heard on the ground the players did too.

Sometimes such abuse (including rascist) would be hurled at a visiting cricketer. The home side players would be embarrassed and would even go to the extent of assuaging the hurt of the player concerned.

In other words foul language was used by the rare fan, the rest of the fans did not like it and the players certainly did not.

How about turning those stump mikes so loud that the entire stadium can hear it on a kind of public address system and then lets have 50.000 people in Melbourne and 100, 000 at Eden Gardens joining in and let everyone in the world experience this enchanting new "open age cricket". At least we will all learn the choicest and filthiest of foul words in so many different languages. Man, just think, It will be an education.

Yes. We all lack education.

 

[Precambrian]

You mean the one where Indian players, and not Australians, are the ones being fined for abusive language

Why do you assume things?

I am glad if Indian or Australian or anyone getting fined if they use tardy language.

 

[Precambrian]

There was a time when the odd barracker in the crowd would be abusive. People cringed at it and if it was loud enough to be heard on the ground the players did too.

Sometimes such abuse (including rascist) would be hurled at a visiting cricketer. The home side players would be embarrassed and would even go to the extent of assuaging the hurt of the player concerned.

In other words foul language was used by the rare fan, the rest of the fans did not like it and the players certainly did not.

How about turning those stump mikes so loud that the entire stadium can hear it on a kind of public address system and then lets have 50.000 people in Melbourne and 100, 000 at Eden Gardens joining in and let everyone in the world experience this enchanting new "open age cricket". At least we will all learn the choicest and filthiest of foul words in so many different languages. Man, just think, It will be an education.

Yes. We all lack education.

Good words there. Some people just need to travel out of their cocoons.

 

[social]

There was a time when the odd barracker in the crowd would be abusive. People cringed at it and if it was loud enough to be heard on the ground the players did too.

Sometimes such abuse (including rascist) would be hurled at a visiting cricketer. The home side players would be embarrassed and would even go to the extent of assuaging the hurt of the player concerned.

In other words foul language was used by the rare fan, the rest of the fans did not like it and the players certainly did not.

How about turning those stump mikes so loud that the entire stadium can hear it on a kind of public address system and then lets have 50.000 people in Melbourne and 100, 000 at Eden Gardens joining in and let everyone in the world experience this enchanting new "open age cricket". At least we will all learn the choicest and filthiest of foul words in so many different languages. Man, just think, It will be an education.

Yes. We all lack education.

Or why not just turn them off altogether?

It's not as though swearing is a recent invention and the world existed in blissful ignorance until commentators and reporters began highlighting it

 

[Precambrian]

Or why not just turn them off altogether?

It's not as though swearing is a recent invention and the world existed in blissful ignorance until commentators and reporters began highlighting it

Why don't get them to sign a captan's pact regarding swearing? If one team doesnt like being sworn at, respect it and cut off from it. If both captains are okay, go ahead and swear at each other like <>. As long as no complaint originates from either team. Right?

 

[Richard]

You seem to forget that turning the microphones way up has already been tried and abandoned before the completion of the test because Gilchrist kept making mention of sponsors not affiliated with the either of the nations involved or the broadcaster

Next idea, please

You seem to forget that no amount of plugging advertising is going to bother Match-Referees. They can listen to it all day if they have to. Not that they'd need to, as players wouldn't gain anything from talking to a Match-Referee, so hence wouldn't bother.

 

[social]

Why don't get them to sign a captan's pact regarding swearing? If one team doesnt like being sworn at, respect it and cut off from it. If both captains are okay, go ahead and swear at each other like <>. As long as no complaint originates from either team. Right?

Because, even if there was one common language throughout the cricketing world, such a situation would still be totally unworkable

Firstly, certain swear words are now legally regarded as part of everyday vocabulary

Secondly, certain words might be offensive to one party and totally inoffensive to another

And thirdly, even in cases where both parties agree to open slather, it will do nothing to appease people that dont want the odd swear word broadcast into their living room

 

[Precambrian]

Because, even if there was one common language throughout the cricketing world, such a situation would still be totally unworkable

Firstly, certain swear words are now legally regarded as part of everyday vocabulary

Secondly, certain words might be offensive to one party and totally inoffensive to another

And thirdly, even in cases where both parties agree to open slather, it will do nothing to appease people that dont want the odd swear word broadcast into their living room

If some words are offensive to some, and non-offensive to others, is it not better to cut it off completely? So that nonne is offended?

 

[social]

You seem to forget that no amount of plugging advertising is going to bother Match-Referees. They can listen to it all day if they have to. Not that they'd need to, as players wouldn't gain anything from talking to a Match-Referee, so hence wouldn't bother.

You seem to forget that the match referee isn't the only one listening

 

[Richard]

You seem to forget that the match referee isn't the only one listening

You seem to forget that he can be if people just choose to make him such a thing. It'd not be remotely difficult to give the MR a set of decks on his desk and allow him to turn stump-mics up in his earpiece when the TV producers weren't on the TV.

 

[social]

If some words are offensive to some, and non-offensive to others, is it not better to cut it off completely? So that nonne is offended?

Who are you trying to protect, the players or spectators?

If its the players, forget about it.

Despite all their influence, the BCCI's ban sledging stance has vanished into the ether and so it's situation normal

If it's the viewers, turn off the microphones or tune out

 

[shankar]

Secondly, certain words might be offensive to one party and totally inoffensive to another

Like 'monkey'?

 

[social]

Like 'monkey'?

Could've been a good example but only if used before the ODI series in India last year

 

[shankar]

Could've been a good example but only if used before the ODI series in India last year

Why? It's still inoffensive to some and offensive to some.