Australian Domestic Off-Season Thread 2008

[mikeW]

I rekon he'll promote SA from last, to 2nd last.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Allan Wise to SA - you heard it here first.

 

[mikeW]

Allan Wise to SA - you heard it here first.

Shattered.. one of my faves.

 

[James90]

My tip is he goes the same way as Ervine and Flower.

Still more successful than Blignaut and Friend.

 

[brockley]

Wise will add much to the redback attack which is now missing jason gillespie and ryan harris,otherwise the redback attack looks weak.
I am surprised its not just wise leaving the vics,lots of competition for 3 places.
Altho am convinced harwood has had his day like mick lewis had 2 seasons ago.

 

[brockley]

Griffith and denton confirm their contracts with tassie,and tassie signed young canberra batsmen john rogers who scored 98 vs india this year,rogers was playing for west sydney.

 

[Simon]

Griffith and denton confirm their contracts with tassie,and tassie signed young canberra batsmen john rogers who scored 98 vs india this year,rogers was playing for west sydney.

Rogers is gun, good get. Captained the Comets in the pre season last year despite only being 20. He's a future test batsman imo.

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

Has someone picked up Swards? Could worth a shot for SA if not.

 

[brockley]

No one sniffed at swards,not even tasmania and he is tasmanian.
Oh well maybe he play for the comets again and get picked up mid year.

 

[Simon]

Has someone picked up Swards? Could worth a shot for SA if not.

Pretty sure he's staying in Canberra. If any other ACT players are going to try their luck in another state look out for Jonathon Dean, top order batsman came from Bathurst last year and can play.

 

[brockley]

MacGill hopeful on Blues future

June 07, 2008 STUART MacGill believes he could still have two years left in him despite being prepared to accept spin bowling coach Terry Jenner's opinion he should no longer play for New South Wales.

Leg-spinner MacGill returned from Antigua, where he announced his retirement from international cricket last weekend during the second Test against the West Indies.

Although he had no intention of playing until he was 40, MacGill, 37, felt he still had another couple of years of cricket left to offer.

MacGill, who finished with 208 Test victims at an average of 29.02, suggested he wanted to play on provided he got positive reports from the Australian and NSW medical staff over the next couple of months.

Knee and wrist injuries sidelined MacGill for part of last summer, with his knees continuing to be the major fitness issue.

"Once the ball gets past me it takes me slightly longer than the Queen Mary to turn around, so that's not a good thing for a professional athlete," MacGill said.

"I guess the next couple of months will be pretty much finding out whether or not I can continue to keep playing at all.

"I think we've got the best cricket physio on the planet in NSW in Pat Farhart and obviously in consultation with the Cricket Australia medical staff I will sit down and I guess we will do a status report and see where I'm at.

"There's certainly no motivation issues, I'm dying to play.

"I'd like to play Test cricket but unfortunately the travel involved with Test cricket and the rigorous schedule is just prohibitive."

Former Test spinner Jenner, who also achieved fame as Shane Warne's spin mentor, queried why MacGill would continue playing for NSW and said he should move on.

"Sure, I'm prepared to accept that sort of comment, I think it's pretty clear though I've got a lot to offer the NSW team," MacGill said.

"It's certainly not just on a statistical level.

"There's not very many wrist spinners around in world cricket and I think I've been one of the more successful ones, certainly from a coaching point of view too.

"I think it would be valuable for them to have me around off the field and my statistics prove that I'm pretty handy on the field from time to time too."

MacGill felt he would have been more embarrassed staying on the West Indies tour and not performing to his potential than coming home in the middle of the campaign.

Prior to the tour, the NSW spinner was confident he would perform well.

He admitted to feeling sorry for Victorian spinner Bryce McGain, who may well have been selected for the tour, had MacGill not been fit to travel to the West Indies.

MacGill said all his Australia teammates were surprised by his retirement announcement as they had known how much he wanted to play on the tour.

Outside cricket, MacGill will shortly start filming another eight episodes of his award-winning pay television wine program "Uncorked", which will include two shows in New Zealand.

"I don't get to play cricket there, but I get to drink a bit of booze, so that's pretty good," MacGill joked.

Every match of Australia's tour

 

[Mard]

Younis Khan agrees to help out South Australia

Younis Khan agrees to help out South Australia


South Australia's hunt for a big-name signing has finally come off with Younis Khan, the Pakistan batsman, agreeing to a short-term deal with the state for the 2008-09 season. The Redbacks made their plans known last week after failing to convince any major Australian players to move to Adelaide and the coach Mark Sorell was pleased to have his man.

"Securing a batsman of Younis' calibre will provide our young South Australian batsmen with unprecedented experience," he said. "Our top order is really excited by the news. We expect Younis will play a key role in making sure the Redbacks are competitive this season and ensuring our bowlers have good targets to work with."

Sorell said there were specific details of the deal that still needed to be arranged but he expected Younis to arrive before the start of the domestic season in October. Younis will only be available until shortly before Christmas due to Pakistan's Test and one-day commitments with India. If South Australia make the finals of either the Pura or FR Cups he may be free to return.


http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/353302.html

 

[Top_Cat]

Younis Khan agrees to help out South Australia


South Australia's hunt for a big-name signing has finally come off with Younis Khan, the Pakistan batsman, agreeing to a short-term deal with the state for the 2008-09 season. The Redbacks made their plans known last week after failing to convince any major Australian players to move to Adelaide and the coach Mark Sorell was pleased to have his man.

"Securing a batsman of Younis' calibre will provide our young South Australian batsmen with unprecedented experience," he said. "Our top order is really excited by the news. We expect Younis will play a key role in making sure the Redbacks are competitive this season and ensuring our bowlers have good targets to work with."

Sorell said there were specific details of the deal that still needed to be arranged but he expected Younis to arrive before the start of the domestic season in October. Younis will only be available until shortly before Christmas due to Pakistan's Test and one-day commitments with India. If South Australia make the finals of either the Pura or FR Cups he may be free to return.


http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/353302.html

Swap 'Younis Khan' with 'Andy Flower', who was far more credentialled really, and we've heard it all before. And he was here for the whole season at least! The mere presence of a top-class batsman won't make a difference to a team like SA.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Just an idle thought, really, but what's the rule on overseas players in Oz? Is it one per state squad or one per starting XI?

I only ask because with Pattinson's new-found Englishness & Dirk Nannes's Dutch passport Vic might have an interesting decision to make.

 

[James90]

I've never heard of any overseas limit. I've been told that in the past Queensland recruited the likes of Kallicheran and Viv Richards.

Truth be told, I don't think there's any need for a limit because the majority of players capable of performing at the Sheffield Shield standard are Australian anyway

 

[four_or_six]

Just an idle thought, really, but what's the rule on overseas players in Oz? Is it one per state squad or one per starting XI?

I only ask because with Pattinson's new-found Englishness & Dirk Nannes's Dutch passport Vic might have an interesting decision to make.

I was wondering about that with Pattinson... didn't Ryan Harris have to choose between Sussex and Queensland for some reason this season?

Anyway, does Pattinson actually get picked? If he's only played 11 FC games most of those must have been over here this summer.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I was wondering about that with Pattinson... didn't Ryan Harris have to choose between Sussex and Queensland for some reason this season?

Anyway, does Pattinson actually get picked? If he's only played 11 FC games most of those must have been over here this summer.

It was Harris that made me assume there must be some limit. He'd signed for Sussex (I think he even played for them in the MCC curtain raiser), but had to drop out when QLD wouldn't offer him an overseas contract. If there was no limit I can't see why they'd have an issue.

From what vic said in another thread Pattinson made his breakthrough in 06/07 thanks to a few injuries, but (ironically I suppose) was crocked himself for a lot of the last Aussie season.

 

[chaminda_00]

There is no limits per say at State level. I know is grade cricket in NSW there is a limit to two overseas players. But after the influx of overseas players in the 70s and 80s, many felt one of major reasons for poor performances at International level was due to the lack of chances of Australian players. So there been a push since the 90s to only select players that can play for Australia. During the 90s and 2000s there have been very few overseas players.

With regard to guys like Dick Nannes, like a few other players they hold overseas passports, but have never played for Netherlands in matches that count for international status. If they did they wouldn't be considered for there state sides, due to unwritten law of only playing Australian players.

With regard to Harris, Queensland were offering a long term contract. Your not going to offer someone a long term contract and then he gets selected for England or choices to qualifly for England. For the same reasons Pattinson won't play again for Victoria.

So in short no official rule, but there is unwritten rule.

 

[BoyBrumby]

There is no limits per say at State level. I know is grade cricket in NSW there is a limit to two overseas players. But after the influx of overseas players in the 70s and 80s, many felt one of major reasons for poor performances at International level was due to the lack of chances of Australian players. So there been a push since the 90s to only select players that can play for Australia. During the 90s and 2000s there have been very few overseas players.

With regard to guys like Dick Nannes, like a few other players they hold overseas passports, but have never played for Netherlands in matches that count for international status. If they did they wouldn't be considered for there state sides, due to unwritten law of only playing Australian players.

With regard to Harris, Queensland were offering a long term contract. Your not going to offer someone a long term contract and then he gets selected for England or choices to qualifly for England. For the same reasons Pattinson won't play again for Victoria.

So in short no official rule, but there is unwritten rule.

Interesting, cheers.

The thing with Nannes tho is that he's registered here for Middlesex as a "local" (courtesy of his Dutch passport) so if he was selected for Victoria it'd have to be as an overseas player or he'd lose this status as you can't play as non-overseas in more than one country. Law gave QLD away once he got his UK citizenship sorted out, presumably for the same reason.

There again tho, Ervine has been registered with WA (if not actually playing) & spoke of wanting to qualify for Oz whilst having Kolpak status at Hants, so I guess there are ways & means around it.

 

[chaminda_00]

Interesting, cheers.

The thing with Nannes tho is that he's registered here for Middlesex as a "local" (courtesy of his Dutch passport) so if he was selected for Victoria it'd have to be as an overseas player or he'd lose this status as you can't play as non-overseas in more than one country. Law gave QLD away once he got his UK citizenship sorted out, presumably for the same reason.

There again tho, Ervine has been registered with WA (if not actually playing) & spoke of wanting to qualify for Oz whilst having Kolpak status at Hants, so I guess there are ways & means around it.

With Nannes due to his back injuries he had in the past, it probably just a case of the Vics allowing him to register as local in England and overseas players here, as he missed so much of his career and he is basically just a fringe player. But unless he plays for Netherland in a major match, he would still be able to play for Australia. Really with contract status it is just means to an end. Until you play an international status match for another country it doesn't matter.

Law actually retired from Australian cricket, before he started the qualification for England. He never played for Queensland as an overseas players.

Ervine played as an overseas players, but as soon as he stated he was going to quailfy for England. He got the boot straight away, the only thing that kept him on WA squad was the chance he would quailfy for Australia.