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**Official** New Zealand in England
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TT Boy
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It happened when New Zealand were in a perilous position i.e four down for not many, so I’m not sure the loss of Flynn who lets be honest is in the side for one eye on the future would have made a great difference. If anything Flynn’s blow was the catalyst for a great New Zealand counter-attack and for the England bowlers to lose the plot and overuse the short pitched delivery.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Oram looking well down on pace here, but with his accuracy & bounce no-one's going to be able to take liberties with him.
Those odds are insane, by the way, a wicket goes down & we're still in the mire. Vettori has been all over our middle order so far. Few nicker on NZ might be a wise investment.
Those odds are insane, by the way, a wicket goes down & we're still in the mire. Vettori has been all over our middle order so far. Few nicker on NZ might be a wise investment.
GGG
State Captain
I would give us a chance if England are 4 down.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Haha, good to see some pessimistic realists here.
Seriously, if I was a neutral (say, if this game was Namibia vs Uganda) I'd probably be saying England were huge favourites here. But I'm taking nothing for granted.
I've said all along that Strauss and Vaughan are key. The longer they can keep going for the better. We want to leave nothing to Bell and below if possible.
Seriously, if I was a neutral (say, if this game was Namibia vs Uganda) I'd probably be saying England were huge favourites here. But I'm taking nothing for granted.
I've said all along that Strauss and Vaughan are key. The longer they can keep going for the better. We want to leave nothing to Bell and below if possible.
chalky
International Debutant
The odds on England have shortend even further.
England 1.14
New Zealand 5.5
As has been said look incredibly tight on England & generous on New Zealand.
TBF New Zealand are looking very deflated.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
One wicket would change that; two would completely and totally transform it.
We still need 163 as of this post and we still know that Oram will very probably give us nothing. And we'd be mad to go chasing after him.
I can already feel the complacency washing over the majority of the cricket-watching population. It might turn-out to be well-placed complacency, but if it doesn't it'll feel truly awful.
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Very much so.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
They do, yeah. But as Smith just said on the comm the game's turned around more than once already in the game.
Still think those odds on us are woefully mean tho. Mick drove upishly & got a leading edge in Oram's last over, so it's not like our progress has been totally serene.
