Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Sidebottom, SP Jones, Flintoff and Panesar for SA. 
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gettingbetter
State Vice-Captain
Fair enough, with Flintoff being fit and close to recall, but Jones? You might as well mention Tresco while you are at it.Sidebottom, SP Jones, Flintoff and Panesar for SA.
gettingbetter
State Vice-Captain
Wouldn't be suprised either way. Firstly, there is a constant want to go back to the same team that featured in the 2005 Ashes win, having 5 bowlers being integral to that win, so reverting back to such is not out of the question. But with Fredrick's batting form, which IIRC consist of a pair, a first baller and a few nigh run a ball teen innings...which all equates to him being unfit to bat at number 6 or unfit enough to drop a batsman.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Bit ambitious. Am guessing the PH34R might signify not-totally-serious, but if not, then the fact Jones has just quadrupled his First-Class wickets tally for the previous 3 years really shouldn't mean anyone's currently thinking of putting him back in the Test team.Sidebottom, SP Jones, Flintoff and Panesar for SA.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
No. Flintoff is not good enough to play as a front-line batsman, and nor is Ambrose, at the current time at least and very possibly for good.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I really don't think there is. The press exaggerated that idea ITFP, and if it ever did exist it was only very briefly in the late-2006 sort of time.
There's 5 players from that team who are now certain or near-as-damn-it never to play Tests again in Giles, Trescothick, Geraint and Simon Jones and Harmison. Bell should never bat at four, or above Pietersen, again either; and if Hoggard does play again I'd not be totally amazed to see him have a stop-start, bit-part career from now on. I also don't think Vaughan and Flintoff will play many more Tests together.
Cook is a like-for-like replacement for Trescothick, and Ambrose (or if not Ambrose then whoever's next) for Jones. But I've never been a massive fan of five bowlers and if five should ever be picked ahead of Collingwood or Shah I'll not be happy at all.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Nope, same mistakes bar 1 or 2 deliveries as yesterday.
Credit to Strauss and Cook for not chasing the game, all the same. Better than I'd have expected from Strauss. If he can make a few here that'll be a big thing for him and maybe, just maybe, I might start believing in him again.
cover drive man
International Captain
Mike Atherton made a good point about the difference in slip positioning between both sides.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Yeah, plenty of people (mostly old-timers) have gone on about that for a while. Seem to prefer slips in a row rather than slip, no slip, slip, slip or something like that.
Rain again, presumably we'll be off again before too long.
NZ have bowled too many no-balls this innings BTW.
Rain again, presumably we'll be off again before too long.
NZ have bowled too many no-balls this innings BTW.
