Prince EWS
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Time for the Jimmy Adams award to make a return?
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Prince EWS
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Mills approaching 50. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. On one hand it's obviously good to see him in some decent batting form, but if Mills can score a half century in these conditions against this attack, it doesn't say a lot for the top order..
andruid
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True.. True, and its been happening alot it seems with NZ, (the lower order doing the run scoring I mean)
Prince EWS
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Well Vettori's performances over the last few years more than suggest he's better than most of the New Zealand top order, so I'd never be too worried by him outscoring them in a tour match - I'd back him to follow it up with a good score in the first Test. Mills on the other hand, while more than competant as a lower order batsman and perhaps even under-rated, should not be outscoring the top order.
HeathDavisSpeed
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Good to see Dipak Patel making a comeback after a successful off-season in the Aussie beach cricket tournament.
Richard
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Not neccessarily. As I say above, Bopara is a strange mix, Tudor as everyone knows is capable of bowling absolutely brilliantly if things go right, Palladino is certainly a decent-ish bowler. Don't know a thing about this Maurice Chambers fellow, barely played half a season's worth, of course, and as we all know - presume that the unknown is the poor and you're living dangerously.
Richard
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Trying to stop me giving it to your sig IMO. Either way, there's certainly going to be an award made this week.Time for the Jimmy Adams award to make a return?
Richard
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Thought he was a batsman ITBT. Though am aware that he was used as a wildcard bowler in WC92 (or was it WC87?
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Prince EWS
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He started off as a batsman but played as a bowling allrounder for the majority of his international career.Thought he was a batsman ITBT. Though am aware that he was used as a wildcard bowler in WC92 (or was it WC87?
HeathDavisSpeed
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Now, I don't remember exactly, but I saw a young Essex quickie in the last year I was in the UK. He was either Chambers or Westfield? He seemed pretty quick, though very, very raw. Capable of bowling some good and quick deliveries, but with a bit of a dodgy radar. Then he got injured I think and was out the rest of the season. Could have been out injured last season as well. Essex have a worse record than NZ for fast bowler injuries - I think Tudor, Thomas (did he even play a game last year?), Palladino, Chambers and then, brilliantly, signing Andrew McGarry back up only to be injured in his first (second?) game back. Brilliant.
Prince EWS
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No surprise you remembered him then.
Richard
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My bet's on Mervyn Westfield, from that description, TBH.
Don't forget, BTW, in Essex's injured-fast-bowlers list the fact that Mark Ilott and Ashley Cowan, better bowlers than all the aforementioned bar Tudor by a fair bit, had their careers finished by such things (despite trying to fight on). And Irani who was forced to give-up bowling.
HeathDavisSpeed
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I knew someone would say that... To be fair, I'd have done the sameNo surprise you remembered him then.
Yes - I hadn't forgotten Ilott, Cowan and Irani. Its pretty hard to forget them really. I went to the same gym as the Essex squad once-upon-a-time, hence I know a fair bit about their players (circa mid-nineties anyway).
Of course, of an older vintage than those guys, Neil Foster was a fair crock too.
John Lever and Neil Foster were better than Ilott and Irani by a long, long way. Its crazy to think how good that 1980s Essex team were compared to the current crop - Ken McEwen, Graham Gooch, Mark Waugh/Allan Border, Brian Hardie, Paul Pritchard.
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Hmm, need to learn that there's no room for my style of humour on internet forums.Time for the Jimmy Adams award to make a return?
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I realise that they are at least reasonably good first-class bowlers, but I don't see any of them pushing for a spot in the England bowling attack in the near future.
Richard
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What about Stuart Turner?
Son Of Coco
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His balls?
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But he doesn't, and as a result there's not necessarily any reason to believe he was bowling at his best yesterday - as the fact that he was hit for 5.11 per over may suggest.
Son Of Coco
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Exactly, if everyone bowled as well as they could each team'd be sensational. The ability to utilise the skills you have is one of the facets each player has to master. If he can't, then he's not good enough.