silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
India scored almost 400 runs on this pitch while losing 12 wickets, coming out to over 33 runs per wicket - which is very healthy (and actually the average runs per wicket for all Tests this decade).
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pasag
RTDAS
Yeah, they've done well here. Credit to Ganguly's match winning knock and Sreesanth and Sharma's partnership which really turned the game on its head.
Yeah, congratulations India, on a well deserved win. Ishant Sharma is an underrated tailender, but I have my misgivings about Sreesanth (he tends to throw the bat, Darren Gough-style).
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
I will agree with that. I myself didn't watch the whole game either but a lot of wickets have been gifted from both sides. In SA first inning, McKenzie was batting well and then suddenly decided to charge down the track to Chawla. There was just no need for that aggression that early in the game. In India inning, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Ganguly and Chawla were out showing unnecessary aggression. Obviously Second inning was a lot tougher to bat on but again Sehwag threw is wicket.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
I'm sorry but anyone who rates Paul Harris as a good spin bowler needs to have a re-think. He may be able to fill the "tight bowler" role on flat tracks, but he was piss poor this match. Similar to Hauritz ala 2004.
Termanati was right mate. Not a ridiculous post at all, and turned out to be spot on.
No, nobody's that bad. At least Paul Harris wasn't outbowled by a part-timer.
I also wouldn't compare this surface to Mumbai, although both pitches were capable of making trundlers look menacing and batsmen look like amateurs. Mumbai was 10x worse, IMO.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Haha you're right, but Sehwag DID outbowl Paul Harris, and I wouldn't call Sehwag a full-time spin bowler. Granted he's not on the same team like Michael Clarke was for Hauritz, but its the same principle.No, nobody's that bad. At least Paul Harris wasn't outbowled by a part-timer.
ret
International Debutant
Nice win for India .... the guys FINALLY picked their games up .... kudos to Sree and Ishant for stretching the lead
SA will be happy to not lose the series though and as they beat Ind in SA, they haven't done any harm to their ICC rankings wrt to their series against Ind .... while Ind missed out on taking the points back but they will take heart from leveling the series after they were in a spot of bother .... The pitches should have been like this for the previous two tests as well .... a few questions have been asked during this series on Team India, I hope that the selectors will come up with the right answers
the so-called filler series is over, the action shifts to the much-awaited IPL
SA will be happy to not lose the series though and as they beat Ind in SA, they haven't done any harm to their ICC rankings wrt to their series against Ind .... while Ind missed out on taking the points back but they will take heart from leveling the series after they were in a spot of bother .... The pitches should have been like this for the previous two tests as well .... a few questions have been asked during this series on Team India, I hope that the selectors will come up with the right answers
the so-called filler series is over, the action shifts to the much-awaited IPL
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
great win for India and great decision by all not to have got into that avatar challenge with me.. 
ret
International Debutant
Some nice points raised by Daryll Cullinan below:
DC:"I think Dhoni is always impressive. I saw him Ireland a while back and I think he's a very smart cricketer. I think this is the dilemma that faces Indian cricket at the moment. You have got an aging captain with an aging side on the one hand and you have got a young captain with an emerging side on the other.
Just looking at it from the outside, it looks as though the energy and force is moving with Dhoni. He is the face of Indian cricket I often hear rumours about the split between the juniors and the seniors and I feel that therein lies the major issue and India need to address it quickly.
How much longer can they look to have an older captain with an older squad looking to preserve their places, when you have a dynamic, young, smart captain on the other side, who has got everything moving behind him?
I think that is the conflict at the moment which is troubling India and I don't see how long they can continue having two captains. You also sense that the squad warms to Dhoni, they seem relaxed and happy to follow what he has to say. I don't want to be Gary Kirsten or the Indian selectors, but I am sure, in time, and looking at the circumstances of this victory will mean that Dhoni will become captain in both forms of the game."
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DC:"I think Dhoni is always impressive. I saw him Ireland a while back and I think he's a very smart cricketer. I think this is the dilemma that faces Indian cricket at the moment. You have got an aging captain with an aging side on the one hand and you have got a young captain with an emerging side on the other.
Just looking at it from the outside, it looks as though the energy and force is moving with Dhoni. He is the face of Indian cricket I often hear rumours about the split between the juniors and the seniors and I feel that therein lies the major issue and India need to address it quickly.
How much longer can they look to have an older captain with an older squad looking to preserve their places, when you have a dynamic, young, smart captain on the other side, who has got everything moving behind him?
I think that is the conflict at the moment which is troubling India and I don't see how long they can continue having two captains. You also sense that the squad warms to Dhoni, they seem relaxed and happy to follow what he has to say. I don't want to be Gary Kirsten or the Indian selectors, but I am sure, in time, and looking at the circumstances of this victory will mean that Dhoni will become captain in both forms of the game."
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Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
RIght from the first over I saw Harris bowl in this Game, I thought RUH RHO RHAGGY (Scooby doo impression)Haha, why is Harris sending down full toss? Here's a pitch which is about as good as you can hope for as a spinner, and he wants to forego its use.
A spinner who doesnt turn it big, Harbijan , Was getting it to rip... ANd harris was like a dart... It spelt doom for sa, becasue , though the uneven bounce would get the quicks a couple wickets, Sa NEEDED the spinner to make life impossable for India, and harris did not do that.
For me, Harris career should be over. If he cannot produce the goods on this pitch, by god he cannot do it on any other.
Sa need to seriously consider how they are going to get a decent spinner.
All this "Transformation policy" BS just trying to get players of other races in, when they really should just be trying to get the best players. And concentrate on making great cricketers, not just great black cricketers.
Protean
State Regular
Really not applicable..
ret
International Debutant
I agree with some of what Cullinan said .... btw Boucher didn't make runs to in this series and that doesn't mean he should not be the captain
By seniors, he is implying the aging members ....I would like the replacement process to begin sooner rather than later for the healthy transition .... Don't won't India to wait till things get worse and then bring in youngsters who may take time adjusting to the learning curve .... that scenario would be like a double trouble situation for Indian cricket as we would be doing badly when things are getting worse and then when the new guys come in who would need time to adjust to the international cricket
And absolutely, the seniors played well here .... but some of them seem to lack that consistency which is a slight problem .... And as Smith said: "If we were playing India at home, and it was 1-1 we would be sitting in our dressing room a touch disappointed"
The series against England would be the perfect time to being the transition process
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popepouri
State Vice-Captain
Fantastic series. It had a bit of everything. Huge scores, collapses and some good comebacks. I'm happy with 1-1
I'm happy with how SA conducted themselves given the crap that was thrown around during the Aus/Ind series and the politics before the series. There were no criying about the pitches and everyone just stuck in and did their job. Excellent.
I'm happy with how SA conducted themselves given the crap that was thrown around during the Aus/Ind series and the politics before the series. There were no criying about the pitches and everyone just stuck in and did their job. Excellent.
ret
International Debutant
Dhoni HAS established himself as the test wicket-keeper and thats his primary job, the reason he is in the team .... and he is averaging 33, which is not not bad .... btw, Boucher is averaging 30.02
it would also be like Flintoff being the Eng captain, who bowls well [his primary job] and averages 32.50. Now you woudn't say that for Flintoff to be Eng captain, i.e. he needs to bat well
And that 33 average of Dhoni's is not far behind Jaffar's 34, whom you used to support for a place in the Indian side as a specialist opener and he is not even an all-rounder
So if Jaffar's avg of 34 is good enough of you to support him for a place as an specialist opener, if Boucher avg of 30 is good enough for you to consider him as a specialist test batsmen, if you don't mind Flintoff leading Eng with a batting avg of 32 then why do you have probs with Dhoni's avg of 33 .... And it's not like he is doing is primary job badly