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***Official*** Sri Lanka in Australia

Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
I think the Rudi with Sanath thing is more of an issue than his mistake with Sanga's dismissal. Yeah he ****ed up, yeah he's a **** umpire so we're getting used to it (didn't he give Lara out LBW around the wicket from Lee when it was missing another set of stumps?) but if he honestly changed his mind when Sanath raised his bat, there's a problem. The cameras showed he did change his mind, which isn't that big an issue. The issue is if Sanath influenced him.
 
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Laurrz

International Debutant
Nnanden said:
Sick of Umpire bashing. Must be one of the hardest, most unrewarding jobs. Personally thought Rudi had an excellent Test, some very tricky decisions given or not given correctly. So he had one clanger? A fair amount of people here thought it was out in real time, so did the Australian Cricket Team and so did Rudi. So it was obviously quite close. I understand at the time it is frustrating and I think it's fair enough to have a grumble, but if you're still fired up and calling for the man's job the next day, you've got problems. It is a damn hard job and people should accept it as part and parcel of cricket.
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well said
 
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Laurrz

International Debutant
JASON said:
I think Aussie bowlers bar Lee will struggle overseas in this post Mcgrath era...the next few overseas series they start playing in the subcontinent will show that. NZ bowlers are fine just problems with fitness(of Bond) and a need quite badly for a change of Coach , IMHO.
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i disagree

the pitches we;ve played on gave very very lil to the quicks and look at the purchase they got (was impressed with reverse swing.. didnt know Midge was such a good mover of the ball)
 
howardj

howardj

International Coach
Nnanden said:
Sick of Umpire bashing. Must be one of the hardest, most unrewarding jobs. Personally thought Rudi had an excellent Test, some very tricky decisions given or not given correctly. So he had one clanger? A fair amount of people here thought it was out in real time, so did the Australian Cricket Team and so did Rudi. So it was obviously quite close. I understand at the time it is frustrating and I think it's fair enough to have a grumble, but if you're still fired up and calling for the man's job the next day, you've got problems. It is a damn hard job and people should accept it as part and parcel of cricket.
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Sick of generalisations. Nobody is bashing umpires en masse. Rather, just saying that Rudi had a shocker and has been in decline for quite some time.
 
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JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Laurrz said:
i disagree

the pitches we;ve played on gave very very lil to the quicks and look at the purchase they got (was impressed with reverse swing.. didnt know Midge was such a good mover of the ball)
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I look forward earnestly to Sri Lanka thrashing Australia 3-0 with three successive innings defeats when Australia next plays us in August -September 2011 in Sri Lanka ....:laugh:

with Murali reaching his 1000th wicket then perhaps...:laugh:

Until then I will keep my frustrations and disappointment in check...:)
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Laurrz said:
i disagree

the pitches we;ve played on gave very very lil to the quicks and look at the purchase they got (was impressed with reverse swing.. didnt know Midge was such a good mover of the ball)
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The pitches in Australia have become less defined in terms of their pace of late, but they still give a lot more bounce than pitches in other countries, and a lot of wickets fell as a result of this bounce during the season. Stuart Clark in particular is someone I don't think would be nearly as effective as he is if he played on surfaces with less bounce. I think he'll be pretty useless in the subcontinent TBH.
 
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Laurrz

International Debutant
Prince EWS said:
The pitches in Australia have become less defined in terms of their pace of late, but they still give a lot more bounce than pitches in other countries, and a lot of wickets fell as a result of this bounce during the season. Stuart Clark in particular is someone I don't think would be nearly as effective as he is if he played on surfaces with less bounce. I think he'll be pretty useless in the subcontinent TBH.
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hmm maybe.. the thing is though, Aussie pitches aren't even as bouncy as before IMO... in this series both Gabba and Bellerive have been quite slow

no doubt Aussie quicks are more dangerous on a bouncy wicket...with pace (Lee Midge) and height (Clark).. but i think they have shown that they have enough weapons on a dead pitch.. i didn't expect Lee and Midge to bowl with reverse swing that much (and we use kookaburra) Clark had an off day in the last day but i think he was weary and was 10k down or so..

the only reason why Lanka were able to get 300 400 was only coz of MacGill.. which i understand is a worry..but i think he'll improve or be replaced when we go to the subcontinent...
but the 3 quicks i am very happy with.. no issues for me
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Aussie pitches aren't even as bouncy as before IMO... in this series both Gabba and Bellerive have been quite slow
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You're missing my point, still. It's quite possible for a pitch to be fast with little bounce or bouncy with little pace. The pitches in Brisbane and Hobart weren't particularly quick, but balls were still bouncing off a length - slowly.

As I said in my previous post, the pitches might not be as fast as they once were, but they get a lot more bounce than pitches overseas. Until you can recognise the difference between pace and bounce though, this discussion is going to go absolutely nowhere. Obviously the pace of a pitch will assist the bounce, but it's not obviously not the only factor in it as we've seen slow yet bouncy pitches in Australia for two seasons now.
 
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Laurrz

International Debutant
Prince EWS said:
You're missing my point, still. It's quite possible for a pitch to be fast with little bounce or bouncy with little pace. The pitches in Brisbane and Hobart weren't particularly quick, but balls were still bouncing off a length - slowly.

As I said in my previous post, the pitches might not be as fast as they once were, but they get a lot more bounce than pitches overseas. Until you can recognise the difference between pace and bounce though, this discussion is going to go absolutely nowhere. Obviously the pace of a pitch will assist the bounce, but it's not obviously not the only factor in it as we've seen slow yet bouncy pitches in Australia for two seasons now.
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ah ok i get ya

i thought the bounce was there at the Gabba day 1.. id call it even bounce though... and i thought it dissappeared as the game wore on.. Gilly was getting it at knee height

and in Bellerive in the 2nd dig... most balls were bouncing before it got to gilly
(They made 400 but i thought the bowlers didn't do too badly and were tiring)

but the bounce wasn't bad in the first innings i give you that..still not bouncy.. id say even
 
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chaminda_00

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Craig said:
Out of interest when was the last time Australia went in with an all-pace attack? I'm thinking about 1991 in the series where Warne made his Test debut?
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Don't know about that Matthews played a fair bit as 5th bowler around that time. There probably where matches were they had four seamers, but Matthews bowled a fair bit as the 5th bowler.
 
Perm

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Craig said:
Out of interest when was the last time Australia went in with an all-pace attack? I'm thinking about 1991 in the series where Warne made his Test debut?
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Would have to be before Warne's time I'm guessing.
 
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