Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Much worse than hypocrisy, I agree.
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***Official*** Sri Lanka in Australia
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
SS is a sweetie? .No trouble with Murli's action ,but can't accept Akhtar's action.
Haha, nice edit. In any case, I think all doosra's are chucked. And Akhtar chucks too. And probably Lee. And probably Sreesanth. My problem is that people frequently ignore scientific evidence or frame their criticism in a ridiculous manner with ignorant one-liners (e.g, they changed the laws for him...um, they found everyone chucked under the old laws, including Murali, so they had to change it, or my favorite - 'my eyes can detect elbow flex and are not fooled by the mechanism that gives the illusion of a throw because they are infallible compared to scientific equipment').
Do I think Murali is better than Warne as a spinner? Maybe. But I'd rather have Warne in my all time XI. Ideally, I'd have neither and have four fast bowlers - but that's a different story.
All of this is of course irrelevent to the avatar challenge.
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aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Very encouraging series for Australia in this the first series of the post Warne-McGrath era. The batting was solid & impressive especially how they played Muralitharan he hardly looked threatening but they weren't put under any real pressure this is where we will see if Symonds has real emerged as a true test match batsman.
The bowling Lee has stood up, i'm not surprised personally because he actually stand up as the spearhead when McGrath was out for most of the 2005/06 season. If you look back at it he probably relaxed a bit when McGrath came back for the Ashes but now he has showed that he has the brains to lead the attack. Long may it continue.
With others well, Johnson was solid without being spectacular the more test he plays he should get better, Clark really was the glue that held the bowling attack together, while MacGill bowled the best he can but won't be a shoe in selection in all conditions though i would still think Australia can play 4 quicks successfully in the future i.e vs West Indies in Jamaica next year..
The Indians will now arrive with a much more inform pace attack base on what they did in England & an more seasoned batting line-up. Will be interesting to see how things unfold this time around given how well India did in Australia in 2003/04, i expect another close series..
The bowling Lee has stood up, i'm not surprised personally because he actually stand up as the spearhead when McGrath was out for most of the 2005/06 season. If you look back at it he probably relaxed a bit when McGrath came back for the Ashes but now he has showed that he has the brains to lead the attack. Long may it continue.
With others well, Johnson was solid without being spectacular the more test he plays he should get better, Clark really was the glue that held the bowling attack together, while MacGill bowled the best he can but won't be a shoe in selection in all conditions though i would still think Australia can play 4 quicks successfully in the future i.e vs West Indies in Jamaica next year..
The Indians will now arrive with a much more inform pace attack base on what they did in England & an more seasoned batting line-up. Will be interesting to see how things unfold this time around given how well India did in Australia in 2003/04, i expect another close series..
JBH001
International Regular
Hmm, thats the ironic thing. If the Aussie tracks had been more 'Australian' Murali may have done a little better. I dont think it a coincidence that his best spell and the best reward for his efforts was the first day in Brisbane when there was something in the wicket for him. But neither do I deny that he did bowl well, and was played, as you say, excellently. In the end, the Australian bats were well and truly in charge especially at the end of his spell in the first innings at Hobart.
Thats the other thing. I have been thinking a great deal about stats recently. My usual position was that though stats did not tell the whole story they did tell a great deal - but I may have to revise that assessment down a little bit. It takes away from the efforts of both batsmen and bowler, and it may also mean that more weight may have to be given to anecdotal evidence when it comes to judging players of the past whom we have simply not seen in action (Sobers to quote one example).
Finally I dont think India will be much of a threat. Their battining, as some have already said, looks better on paper than it may actually be in reality (though it does depend to an extent on the kind of surfaces that the curators prepare). We may see a draw (or perhaps two) but otherwise I think it likely that Australia win 3 - 4 tests.
I think Aussie bowlers bar Lee will struggle overseas in this post Mcgrath era...the next few overseas series they start playing in the subcontinent will show that. NZ bowlers are fine just problems with fitness(of Bond) and a need quite badly for a change of Coach , IMHO.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
They did fine on flat tracks in one day cricket. Obviously, that counts for crap but it did show that they can have venom in the subcontinent.
howardj
International Coach
Time To Go Rudi: http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermai...ouriermail/comments/time_to_go_rudi_koertzen/
What about the ego on the guy - with that slow raising of his finger on dismissals. I also think he tries to be mates with the Aussies - and hence you get that ridiculous Sangakarra decision yesterday. I'm not suggesting he is deliberately biased, just that he likes to please the Australians, and hence he tends to see line ball decisions through that sort of prism.
What about the ego on the guy - with that slow raising of his finger on dismissals. I also think he tries to be mates with the Aussies - and hence you get that ridiculous Sangakarra decision yesterday. I'm not suggesting he is deliberately biased, just that he likes to please the Australians, and hence he tends to see line ball decisions through that sort of prism.
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Harsh and inaccurate I reckon. Pretty much every umpire who gives a line-ball decision to the Aussies gets that (aside from Venkat perhaps). Even guys like what's-his-name from NZ got it all the time yet he was the umpire who gave Kev Pietersen not-out a couple of times in the 2005 Ashes series when clearly out. Does that mean he's in love with big Kev?
I'll be honest and say I never rated Rudi either but I don't think it's an issue of bias because at ground-level, that decision against Sangakkara was a toughie for any umpire to resist; the ball was a flier, the bat was in the vicinity of the ball, there was a clunk and all of the Aussies went up. How many people thought it was out at full speed? I know I did.
Speaking of ego, do ya like how Robert Craddock writes some pathetic two or three paragraph blog then replies to just about every comment with 'I disagree'? Never had much time for him as a journo, to be honest.
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burr
State Vice-Captain
Yes Craddock leaves a lot to be desired, but he writes for the Hun (and other Rupert establishments) so what do you expect?
I love Rudi's slow finger raise. Channel 9's footage on him taking it out of the holster then putting it back was a classic.
And Yet Aleem Dar (who is much hated by the Aussies btw) got it right with a similar decision 2 overs later against Malinga....
At this level you want the best umpires...Rudi has by self admission very poor hearing (an important pre requisite at this level given sound plays a very important role in some decisions) and wears hearing Aides, and over the recent years its been clear from a fair number of mistakes he has been kindly allowed to get away with that his Eyesight is not very good in some of these crucial decisions...
I know everyone will say I am saying this because it was against a Sri Lankan but take what you want ...I have seen Rudi make mistakes in the past 3-4 years which have been pretty poor ...and it does not look good at this Level besides being unfair to those affected by these decisions.
cameeel
International Captain
So now everyone is lambasting Koertzen for the Sangakkara decision, yet completely ignoring the brilliant not out decision Koertzen made regarding the Jayasuriya LBW appeal?
howardj
International Coach
Getting decisions right is his job. He made an absolute howler yesterday and should be accountable for it, in the same way that you would be if you made such a poor error at your work.
Anyway, the 3rd umpire should have been able to step in yesterday and say "not out". Would have taken all of 20 seconds.
It was shown clearly by Channel 9 that Sanath escaped from Rudi's finger ...only by pointing to his bat once when all the Aussies went up for an LBW and Rudi missed the inside edge from Sanath's bat and his finger started coming out from the grip and was beginning its assent and with Sanath pointing to his bat (Rudi possibly decided he had then heard some noise in his hearing Aide or for any other reason) withdrew his finger back....
howardj
International Coach
Huge ego. The guy is a showman, masquerading as an umpire.
See Post above...he was about to give Sanath the finger as he had missed the edge himself before Sanath saved himself by pointing to the bat and Rudi (may not have heard the nick before) decided to trust Sanath and put his finger back, this was shown very clearly by Channel 9 camera focussed on Rudi's finger behind his back..
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
You do not know this for a fact - unless you somehow have got inside Rudi's head.
It is ludarcis that Gambhir hasnt been selected into the test squad....He is a class opneing partner
Didn't you know that I am Rudi's alter ego...
In all honesty he either decided to trust Sanath or as a late decision decided he had heard something ...because it was shown clearly the finger coming out of his grip and starting to rise for a fraction of a second and then the finger withdrew and descended back...Rudi's finger tricks....
In fact the Channel 9 guys thought it was a good idea that he had his finger behind that it sometimes (as in this instance) saved him from embarassing mistakes by delaying his decision and giving him an extra little bit to use what's left of the grey matter inside his greying bald head... But unfortunately it failed to save Sanga ...(the extra little bit of time I mean)
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
Sick of Umpire bashing. Must be one of the hardest, most unrewarding jobs. Personally thought Rudi had an excellent Test, some very tricky decisions given or not given correctly. So he had one clanger? A fair amount of people here thought it was out in real time, so did the Australian Cricket Team and so did Rudi. So it was obviously quite close. I understand at the time it is frustrating and I think it's fair enough to have a grumble, but if you're still fired up and calling for the man's job the next day, you've got problems. It is a damn hard job and people should accept it as part and parcel of cricket.