Best Test Wicket-Keeper Batsman

[SJS]

In terms of pure stumpsmanship, I'd place Taylor factionally ahead of Knott.

I'd put him (Taylor) ahead by a fraction more than 'fractionally'.

Kidding. I agree.

 

[neville cardus]

I'd put him (Taylor) ahead by a fraction more than 'fractionally'.
Kidding. I agree.

While it's still editable, I'm not gonna let that one stand.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Other way around?

There's no chance, whatsoever, that Taylor > Stewart as a 'keeper-batsman. Nor as a cricketer, for that matter.

What is "other way around"?

No one in the history of the universe has suggested that Taylor was a better "keeper-batsman" than Stewart, he was however a far superior keeper, second only to Knott.

 

[Richard]

You said "There are a few who rank above him (Taylor) as a wicketkeeper/batsman but only Knott ranks above him purely as a wicketkeeper."

Taylor is generally considered, UIMM, to be a better wicketkeeper than Knott. Therefore it makes sense for few to rank above Taylor as wicketkeepers but many (Knott included) to do so as wicketkeeper-batsmen.

Taylor was nothing as a wicketkeeper-batsman.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

You said "There are a few who rank above him (Taylor) as a wicketkeeper/batsman but only Knott ranks above him purely as a wicketkeeper."

Taylor is generally considered, UIMM, to be a better wicketkeeper than Knott. Therefore it makes sense for few to rank above Taylor as wicketkeepers but many (Knott included) to do so as wicketkeeper-batsmen.

Taylor was nothing as a wicketkeeper-batsman.

I see, well in that case the answer to "Other way around?" is No.

 

[SJS]

While it's still editable, I'm not gonna let that one stand.

Seriously while Knott was a superb keeper, I prefer the less flashy style of Taylor. Of all cricket's many crafts, keeping is the most suited to a non-demonstrative, keep-it-simple and stick-to-basics style. Dont you think ?

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Seriously while Knott was a superb keeper, I prefer the less flashy style of Taylor. Of all cricket's many crafts, keeping is the most suited to a non-demonstrative, keep-it-simple and stick-to-basics style. Dont you think ?

Knott wasn't flashy. He was slightly eccentric in that he did a lot of bending and stretching and hopping around when there was a gap in play or even between deliveries, but his actual keeping was simplicity itself.

 

[neville cardus]

Seriously while Knott was a superb keeper, I prefer the less flashy style of Taylor.

'Ear, 'ear! Kudos to you!

Of all cricket's many crafts, keeping is the most suited to a non-demonstrative, keep-it-simple and stick-to-basics style. Dont you think ?

Yep. That's essentially what I argued in defence of Stewart.

 

[Richard]

Agree with SJS and Sir Nev FTR.

 

[JBMAC]

Sometimes the true value of Keeper/batsman must be considered as whether they can hold an end up while a more established batsman makes the necessary runs.Then the likes of Grout,Tallon, Maclean should come into consideration for the "best"

 

[neville cardus]

How do you chaps rate Johnny Waite.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

How do you chaps rate Johnny Waite.

Never saw him in action, but I love the story of how he and his partner sat down and refused to play when the crowd startling heckling their performance...........rumour has it that that's why Derek Pringle was always stiff in the mornings.

 

[Richard]

How do you chaps rate Johnny Waite.

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[neville cardus]

I sincerely hope that you're just taking the urine.

 

[Prince EWS]

Sometimes the true value of Keeper/batsman must be considered as whether they can hold an end up while a more established batsman makes the necessary runs.Then the likes of Grout,Tallon, Maclean should come into consideration for the "best"

That would really depend on the makeup of the rest of your side though. If you had two good allrounders to bat at 6 and 7, a keeper at #8 who was outstanding with the gloves who could consistently spent a long time at the crease in support (even if not scoring many) would be ideal to stick at #8. Unfortunately though, that scenario for that option isn't all that common. The keeper usually finds himself at #7 or higher and hence needs to add to the total as well as support.

 

[Richard]

I sincerely hope that you're just taking the urine.

Sorry, couldn't resist TBH.

 

[neville cardus]

Sorry, couldn't resist TBH.

Grace's beard, that's a massive relief. Seriously, though, some still -- and with good cause, I reckon -- rank Waite ahead of Boucher.

 

[JBMAC]

Grace's beard, that's a massive relief. Seriously, though, some still -- and with good cause, I reckon -- rank Waite ahead of Boucher.

With some justification NC, a test hundred,141 dissmissals and an average of nearly 31 he should be considered as one of the greats of the position.Saw him at the Gabba in 1963 in the twilight of his career and he looked solid behind the stumps and knocked up a quick sixty odd as well

 

[aussie]

With some justification NC, a test hundred,141 dissmissals and an average of nearly 31 he should be considered as one of the greats of the position.Saw him at the Gabba in 1963 in the twilight of his career and he looked solid behind the stumps and knocked up a quick sixty odd as well

and how old are you may i ask JBMAC sir?

 

[Richard]

Well he's seen Bradman.