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Laurrz

International Debutant
wat do u guys think the aussie slips cordon is gonna be?

Warne (1st slip) and Langer (3rd slip) missing

i'd say Jaques will replace Warney at first slip

and third slip... possibly Michael clarke.... but if MacGill plays he should go there
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
wat do u guys think the aussie slips cordon is gonna be?

Warne (1st slip) and Langer (3rd slip) missing

i'd say Jaques will replace Warney at first slip

and third slip... possibly Michael clarke.... but if MacGill plays he should go there

This has been discussed before. Hayden will move to first slip fulltime and Ponting will likely take 2nd, with possibly Hussey or Clarke in at third.
 

pup11

International Coach
Hayden, Ponting, Clarke and Hussey should form the slip cordon because they are all quality slip-fielders.
Anyways i think Hogg should be serious convention to make it into the test XI after his performance today and on the other hand MacGill has been dire.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I am picking Simon Katich and Brad Hogg to make the Final Aussie XII for Gabba over Jacques and Macgill.

But I expect Aussies to still go with Lee, Johnson , Clark and Tait and not pick a spinner in the Final XI.
Hogg is a big chance, but Katich won't make it ahead of Jaques. As good as his innings was, it would be so harsh on Jaques, who has been the dominant Australian domestic cricket batsmen for the past 3 years, and is a specialist opener (which is the position they're fighting over) so it would be absolute crazyness to select Katich ahead of him.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
This has been discussed before. Hayden will move to first slip fulltime and Ponting will likely take 2nd, with possibly Hussey or Clarke in at third.
I would've thought that if Jaques plays he'll be 3rd slip, leaving Hussey & Clarke to field at point/cover/midwicket because they're far superior outfielders.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
If you manipulate the situation so much that there is a chance that you would outbowl them it's possible. But, for once in your life be realistic. You can't come on here and say that you would bowl better than McGrath or Warne or both if this, this, this, this, this, this and this were to take place. Anyone could say that. However, in all reality, for you to prove you were a better bowler than either of them at a given time it would have to be a test match (which you are very unlikely to play), a ODI (which, again you are very unlikely to play), a Pura Cup or Ford Ranger cup match (given that you don't live in Australia that is also very unlikely) or you'd have to join the IPL.

Good luck with that.
RE: Richard outbowling a Glenn McGrath/Shane Warne.

Would never ever happen against Test batsmen.
Against a local club side, who knows? Richard might end up with better figures than McGrath, or Warne. However, he wouldn't have ever bowled better than them. Although... by Richard's definition....
IMO, that is an arrogant viewpoint made by someone who has never bowled against a Test-Class or First-Class Batsman. Ludicrous.
I have TBH, three of them, but that's by the by, because some people seem to have gone OTT, absurdly so, AGAIN...

By saying "I could outbowl McGrath and Warne" the entire point I'm making is that by doing so I'd not be remotely close to being as good as them. Nonetheless, whatever Jack may think, it would happen against ANY batsmen if you gave it enough chances. It's not supposed to be a realistic scenario, and yes indeed everyone could say that - that, of course, is also precisely the point that I am making which some (whether deliberately or not) have failed to spot.

The fact that MacGill outbowled McGrath and Warne once or twice proves absolutely nothing, as anyone could do it if they bowled requistitely poorly enough.
 

lionheart

School Boy/Girl Captain
I hope SL plays a full strength team in the next match or close to (Sangakkara is out). There's no time to get cute, the players need as many games as they can get.
 

lionheart

School Boy/Girl Captain
Sanga possibly missing out on the tour game against Qld is a massive blow
Cricinfo reports that he is definitely out for the QLD tour match and Bayliss said there is a danger of him being in doubt for the 1st test. It'll be very grim indeed if it were pass.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
I would've thought that if Jaques plays he'll be 3rd slip, leaving Hussey & Clarke to field at point/cover/midwicket because they're far superior outfielders.
Jaques is the next David Boon at short leg. Australia's got a pretty good specialist short leg, so I can't see why he wouldn't field there. That also mean Hussey can move away from the short leg and into 3rd slip, where he will be more effective. Jaques only fields in the slips for NSW, cus they got no half decent slippers outside Thornley and Lambert.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I would've thought that if Jaques plays he'll be 3rd slip, leaving Hussey & Clarke to field at point/cover/midwicket because they're far superior outfielders.
Nah, Jaques bat/pad.

Hussey isn't really a point/cover/midwicket kind of fielder anyway.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I have TBH, three of them, but that's by the by, because some people seem to have gone OTT, absurdly so, AGAIN...

By saying "I could outbowl McGrath and Warne" the entire point I'm making is that by doing so I'd not be remotely close to being as good as them. Nonetheless, whatever Jack may think, it would happen against ANY batsmen if you gave it enough chances. It's not supposed to be a realistic scenario, and yes indeed everyone could say that - that, of course, is also precisely the point that I am making which some (whether deliberately or not) have failed to spot.

The fact that MacGill outbowled McGrath and Warne once or twice proves absolutely nothing, as anyone could do it if they bowled requistitely poorly enough.
Mate. Honestly, I've thought your theories before to be a bit whacky, but at least there was some kind of rationality to it, even if it was ever so thin. But, on this occasion you're sitting on Pluto if you're going to use the point that you could outbowl McGrath or Warne to prove why MacGill has outbowled them on occasion.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nah, Jaques bat/pad.

Hussey isn't really a point/cover/midwicket kind of fielder anyway.
Was more thinking about Clarke when i said those 3 positions, i'd say we'll most likely see Hussey at mid-off/on.

You're going to have a 3rd slip more often than a bat/pad though, which i why i think Jaques would field there.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Was more thinking about Clarke when i said those 3 positions, i'd say we'll most likely see Hussey at mid-off/on.

You're going to have a 3rd slip more often than a bat/pad though, which i why i think Jaques would field there.
You'll have both there to start with most likely. The third slip option could probably go to Hussey or Clark after removal of the bat pad. But, Jaques is the newbie. He has to earn a spot in the slips.
 

pup11

International Coach
Clarke is a superb slip-fielder and has taken some stunning catches in the slip-cordon so he would be there in the slips, as far Jacques is concerned his overall fielding standard is pretty dire and its been a obstacle in his selection in the past too but he is gun short-leg fieldsman so he should be kept at that spot.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
It's not, though - I once beat a chess player who was so much better than me (and anyone else of our age) it was untrue.

Anomalies happen if you give them enough chances. It's stupid to say there's a level at which it becomes impossible for one person to outperform another.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious, but Macgill is far from your level and much closer to Warne's or McGrath's.
 

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