Nash to the Windies

[chaminda_00]

We will see. Obviouly Im backing myself in this debate though.

Unless a long term resident or born in a country the ICC dont really wan you playing for a country. Its a backlash against the UAE giving out passports for fun to Pakistani cricketers in the late 90s.

Each country is different but KPs Mom is English and he did 4 yrs qualification.

If he does play on the basis of his Dad comin gfrom there then it opens a huge can of worms (like soccer) as so many people have British ancestry.

The rules for English qualifications are completely different to Jamacia and West Indies. As long as he can get citizenship for Jamacia he can play for West Indies and don't need to go through any 4-year qualification.

The same applies for most countries. For example any player with a Sri Lankan background through their parents or grand parents could play for Sri Lanka, even if they hadn't lived in the country before. In reality Jehan Muburak only lived in Sri Lanka just under four years before he played for Sri Lanka. He lived in USA until he was about 16.

Its really only England who have 4-year qualification period for players who haven't played International Cricket. There is nothing in the ICC laws that states you have to go through a 4-year qualifications period. The only time period is six months of living in the country prior to selection.

The UAE and Pakistan thing was different as well, as they were giving players UAE passports who had no direct link to UAE outside from living their for six months. Its a completely different situations to a player who has citizenship of another country through their parents, but hasn't lived in the country.

 

[Goughy]

The rules for English qualifications are completely different to Jamacia and West Indies. As long as he can get citizenship for Jamacia he can play for West Indies and don't need to go through any 4-year qualification.

Agreed that English cricket states you must be born in England or Wales to qualify and is above and beyond the ICC rules (something that despite fielding players from around the world they should be applauded for).

I cant actually find WICB eligibility regulations anywhere to compare.

If Nash plays for WI then it makes the game a laughing stock.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Question: If you have a passport of another country, how can you not be a citizen?

They mean the same thing. I just started writing passport and then realised that it might be a good idea to write citizen instead.

So the second sentence can equally read "If he hasn't got a Jamaican passport,...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Nash is a great fieldsman. His batting isn't anything special but if Ganga can stay in the team for so long and captain, I can't see why Nash wouldnt get a run sometime.

I feel a bit harsh for rehashing this thread with a response to such an old post, but oh well.

Let's be fair on Ganga here. He's scored very heavily at domestic level and with the 'A' team in recent years and has really been a much-improved player and a brilliant leader of men. He was recalled to the Test team as a result and has really only had one bad series. Granted, it was a horror series in England, but I don't think it's any coincidence that the only game that he scored any runs (80, once out, IIRC) was the first Test, when Sidebottom wasn't around. There are very few left-arm seamers in West Indies domestic cricket... of any quality at least.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Sounds like a chap Camps told me about a while ago called Theodore Modeste.

Will never play consecutive games for Trinidad and Tobago though. He's not exactly set the world alight in his limited chances anyway.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Nash Update (for the interested):

6 and 10-1-26-0 v Leeward Islands
DNB and 5-0-16-0 v (the dire) Windies Under-19s
36* and 10-2-11-1 v Barbados

The pitches seem to be mildly nightmarish for batting though.

 

[Prince EWS]

Nash Update (for the interested):

6 and 10-1-26-0 v Leeward Islands
DNB and 5-0-16-0 v (the dire) Windies Under-19s
36* and 10-2-11-1 v Barbados

The pitches seem to be mildly nightmarish for batting though.

I've seen Nash bowl a few times before. The fact that he's even getting so many overs is a worrying sign for the standard of that competition.

 

[Mister Wright]

Nash Update (for the interested):

6 and 10-1-26-0 v Leeward Islands
DNB and 5-0-16-0 v (the dire) Windies Under-19s
36* and 10-2-11-1 v Barbados

The pitches seem to be mildly nightmarish for batting though.

1-11 off 10 is still pretty good no matter how nightmarish the pitches are, especially for someone who isn't a recognised bowler.

 

[Nate]

Collins and Bradshaw for a start Camps?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I've seen Nash bowl a few times before. The fact that he's even getting so many overs is a worrying sign for the standard of that competition.

There's no doubt that this KFC Cup is one of the weakest in recent times, given the number of inexperienced players taking part. But the pitches have still been atrocious. The TCL Group West Indies Under-19s got shot out for 18 a few days ago. And fair enough it's a step up to senior level (and the best young batsman in the region - Adrian Barath - was out with injury), but 18 all out is pushing it. Barbados then lost 2 wickets in chasing it down.

Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana and Jamaica have the three best batting lineups in the competition. He hasn't faced any of them yet. He obviously won't face Jamaica , but he's up against Guyana next (semi-final) and possibly T&T in the final after that.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Collins and Bradshaw for a start Camps?

Both playing for the same team (Barbados) and not always together, and given the brevity of the West Indies domestic season, that's not much experience.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

1-11 off 10 is still pretty good no matter how nightmarish the pitches are, especially for someone who isn't a recognised bowler.

Other figures from the game (by players who have represented West Indies or West Indies 'A'):

Jerome Taylor 10-0-36-3
Daren Powell 10-0-54-1
Nikita Miller 9-2-26-1
Chris Gayle 1-0-6-0

Operating against a team with 3 West Indies/'A' batsmen - Dwayne Smith/Dale Richards, Patrick Browne.

Pedro Collins 10-3-28-1
Fidel Edwards 7-1-29-1
Corey Collymore 4-0-17-0
Dwayne Smith 1-0-9-0
Suleiman Benn 10-0-36-1

Against Gayle, Nash, Brenton Parchment and Tamar Lambert.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Would it not have just been easier to link the scorecard?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Would it not have just been easier to link the scorecard?

Nah. My post was more informative. How many people on here knew that Nikita Miller represented West Indies 'A'?







That's what I thought.

 

[chaminda_00]

Nash the next Dwayne Smith?

 

[Julian87]

Opposite batting style to Dwayne Smith.

 

[Perm]

Opposite batting style to Dwayne Smith.

He knows how to apply himself?

 

[chaminda_00]

He knows how to apply himself?

Nah not really, he just knows how to block.

 

[Richard]

Not the first time someone's said the wrong D-beginning Smith.

(But I can't find the time I did it because the stupid Search feature isn't working properly )

 

[Prince EWS]

Not the first time someone's said the wrong D-beginning Smith.

(But I can't find the time I did it because the stupid Search feature isn't working properly )

No, he said the correct D-beginning Smith. He was comparing Nash's sudden bowling exploits despite being known as a specialist batsman to Smith's.