Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'd much rather have anyone who can actually score goals and create a threat, rather than someone who tries to be clever all the time and just ends up giving the ball away.
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*Official* English Football Season 2007-08
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roseboy64
Cricket Web Content Updater
Going by what I heard TBF. Obviously you have more info.I dunno where your metatarsals are, but generally they're a foot-based bone....
roseboy64
Cricket Web Content Updater
You obviously didn't watch Rooney in the last part of the season where he regained his form. Didn't play for England though so no telling how he'll do.
bugssy
Cricketer Of The Year
not true mate lol
Tom Halsey
International Coach
So when it's completely unjustified, we're supposed to just keep quiet? Hmm.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Problem is, at international level, none of the alternatives do/will score goals.
Also, Rooney was in extremely good form pre-season tbf.
Johnners
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
way to miss a point.Tom Halsey
International Coach
I don't see your point in that case. Anyone who feels something untrue has been said is going to contradict it...
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I couldn't give a toss what Rooney was doing in warm-up games or for Manure. He's been more or less a waste of time for England since Euro2004, that's a lot of matches to be useless in.
Crouch has scored plenty of goals, I don't care about how unstylish he is - the Germans wouldn't if they had him that's for sure. Hopefully Ashton can get match fit again. Johnson should get a decent go playing in his proper position. I wouldn't bother with Defoe personally and I don't know about the next lot (Bent etc.)
Crouch has scored plenty of goals, I don't care about how unstylish he is - the Germans wouldn't if they had him that's for sure. Hopefully Ashton can get match fit again. Johnson should get a decent go playing in his proper position. I wouldn't bother with Defoe personally and I don't know about the next lot (Bent etc.)
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Crouch's record against decent sides? Crouch wouldn't get near a top class international side, the fact that we are forced to persist with him just about sums up where we are atm.
As to Ashton and Johnson, they haven't had a run in the England side yet so they are probably worth a try in friendlies and the like, but nothing I have seen at domestic level suggests they're going to do much internationally.
Johnners
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
And of course 99% of the things said against Man Utd or it's players are untrue...which is my point.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Eh?. So you obviously didn't see Ashton play at the end of the 05/06 season then.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
What annoys me here is how United fans are all seterotyped as biassed due to the few biassed ones. I'm not denying that there aren't blinkered United fans here - there are however not all of us are.
It also works the other way - a lot of the stuff said against United on this board is untrue, due to other people being extremely blinkered in their hatred of United.
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Rooney's record against *any* class of side?
England aren't a top class international side, even if they were Crouch would be playing a fair bit as sub. Crouch has scored plenty of goals, I don't care who they come against because he's as virtually as big a threat against Brazil as he is against Exeter City. The only thing that's different is the service he gets, it's not like he's started many games against 'decent' sides anyway.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
For a start, Ashton has suffered a serious injury since then, there's no guaranteeing he'll be the same.
Ashton scored 3 goals in 11 league games in the second half of the 05/06 season anyway, and while that was done without top-notch service, West Ham were having a good season. 3 goals in 11 games doesn't really suggest he's going to be a great at international level, and it certainly doesn't suggest that he's the next Alan Shearer, as some have been saying.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Not denying that Rooney hasn't scored very many goals for England at all, however I feel he brings far more to the England side besides goals than Crouch does.
I don't know how you figure out that Crouch is as big a threat to Brazil as he is to Exeter. I wonder what Crouch's goals/minutes ratio is against decent sides, then? If England were a top class international side, in reality Crouch wouldn't be in the squad.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
No doubt about that and it is frightening to consider that are possible forward line for the forthcoming internationals can not even be certain of starting for their club sides but are somehow expected to help us qualify for Euro 2008.
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Over the past 3 years Rooney has done bugger all, not scored, barely sets anyone up. Crouch's mere presence as a lanky git in the box creates more space and opportunities for other players etc. than what Rooney has done for England in the past 3 years.
As for the second bit did you actually bother to read what you quoted? No team can truly cope with high 6 footers, height almost transcends quality of defenses, as does to a lesser extent pace. Better teams stop the source, which is easy when it's England because we're too busy fitting pet players in to have a balanced side. But if you hit good crosses into a 6' 7" player he's going to head it, you can't stop it once the ball is in the air (cheating defenders excepted). Obviously if you're facing a one-dimensional side you can defender deeper or further up the pitch, England don't seem to be able to provide pace getting in behind defenses and height at the same time for whatever reason.
Your dislike of Crouch just because he's ungainly is irrational. Seriously this country of muppets would sooner have a load of non-performing players like Joe Cole and Rooney looking good while they do nothing, having an unbalanced side that creates nothing and goes nowhere.
One of the rare occasions England had a manager with guts and a strong personal opinion, will etc. we actually won something.
While the media and the idiot fans who're a slave to the media picks the side we're doomed, because we'll never produce an 11 that's consistently brilliant and picks itself.
